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Postby rockonpapa » Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:19 pm

I wish that I had learned years ago, that a 20 cent tone cap in the electric guitar would give me the sound I wanted and not have spent $129.00 on pickups!

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Postby ricochet » Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:44 pm

That's a great thing to learn! I point it out now and then on guitar board discussions of "What pickup will give me the sound I want," but few listen and I get tired of typing it.
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Postby 1four5 » Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:06 am

Can I be the total dummy and ask what a tone cap is? :oops:
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Postby ricochet » Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:10 am

The capacitor(s) connected to the tone potentiometer(s) in your guitar. Changing the value of the capacitor has a big effect on your tone, probably bigger than a change of pickups.
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Postby 1four5 » Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:51 am

Thanks!!! Whew...now I don't feel too dumb...a sparky I am not 8)
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Postby Bournio » Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:54 am

Could someone give me an idea about changing the cap, how does it change the sound compared to the value of a capacitor?

I may have to open up my guitar, I've not really done much to it, just set up, but it needs som work now, so I may as well see what i can do to improve tone!
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Tone Caps

Postby rockonpapa » Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:15 pm

Best answer I have found os from GuitarElectronics:
"Most guitars and basses with passive pickups use between .01 and .1MFD (Microfarad) tone capacitors with .02 (or .022) and .05 (or .047) being the most common choices. The capacitor and tone pot are wired together to provide a variable low pass filter. This means when the filter is engaged (tone pot is turned) only the low frequencies pass to the output jack and the high frequencies are grounded out (cut) In this application, the capacitor value determines the "cutoff frequency" of the filter and the position of the tone pot determines how much the highs (everything above the cutoff frequency) will be reduced. So the rule is: Larger capacitors will have lower cutoff frequency and sound darker in the bass setting because a wider range of frequencies is being reduced. Smaller capacitors will have a higher cutoff frequency and sound brighter in the bass setting because only the ultra high frequencies are cut".

Examples of caps:.022 (modern Fender Strat) .1 (50's Fender Strat) .047 (70's Strat) etc. Cheep depending on where you pay them from 2 for $1 to 5 for a $1.

If you are looking for brighter look at .022 or smaller. To tame the top end go to .047 or .033 or .1.
Cheep and easy to experiment. :)
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Postby ricochet » Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:52 pm

Very good explanation, ROP.
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Postby mickeypainless » Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:25 pm

I just love it when ya'll talk dirty!
Actually it gives me some clout when the lil gear heads are hangin around the house!
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Postby Burkie » Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:14 am

Good info Papa! Thanks !
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