Robert Johnson's Guitar (?)...

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Robert Johnson's Guitar (?)...

Postby bluesmcgoo » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:56 pm

I found this over on the IGS site...

http://www.rjguitar.com/index.html

They seem to have no doubts, but - to MY mind - there's no way to EVER prove the claim.

...of course, they've priced it like it's a proven fact.
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Postby mickeypainless » Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:27 pm

Unless RJ himself ripped off a few licks before my own eyes and then handed it to me personally, I'd have to call BULLCHIT on this!
Nice lookin axe though!
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Postby Bournio » Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:33 pm

I agree, I doubt it's Johnson's guitar-that probably got dumped when he died, but it is a nice guitar, I wouldn't mind having a go at it!
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Postby boogiechillun85 » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:38 pm

This kind of reminds me of whenever they find some bones somewhere in Africa they're like "oh, it's Adam and Eve." And every time there's a blip on the radar near a mountain it just HAS to be Noah's Ark..
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Postby ricochet » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:46 pm

Maybe if you stood out on a crossroads at midnight and a big black fellow came along, tuned it up and handed it to you?
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Postby jeffl » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:59 pm

They sure aren't offering any real proof of its authenticity. A good luthier would be capable of building the instrument as a knock-off,for under $20,000, since there's no fancy inlays to worry about. They might find some rich guy who's willin' to gamble on it, but without some way to trace its authenticity, no museum's gonna touch it.
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Postby bosco » Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:07 am

So the guitar just turned up out of no where?

No paper trail, no previous owner.....no explanation?

HOGWASH. :roll:
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Postby stumblin » Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:10 am

bosco wrote:So the guitar just turned up out of no where?

No paper trail, no previous owner.....no explanation?

HOGWASH. :roll:

That pretty much puts it in a nutshell Bosco.
It is a nice looking guitar, it looks like the one in Robert's studio portrait, and I'd like to have one, but that doesn't prove it's the same one that Robert posed with. Neither do any of the "proofs" that "Moments in Time" have conjured up prove anything beyond a capacity for inventive "niche-swindling". I mean "astute market placement" (just in case someone turns litigious!).
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Postby bosco » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:00 pm

Yes, it does look like the one in Robert's studio portrait, but "Moments In Time" goes on to claim the guitar was used "to play and record some of the most significant blues music of the 20th Century."

Now we have an assumption that the guitar in the famed photo is also the guitar that Robert recorded all of his songs with.

Again, proof? :roll:

HOGWASH!
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Postby dcblues » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:00 pm

I have a harmonica that Little Walter owned and recorded with. In fact, it's the one he used when he recorded "Juke." How can I prove it? Well, it's a Hohner Marine Band. Walter played Marine Bands, therefore it's Walter's harp! It can be your's for the low price of $500,000!
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Postby bosco » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:51 pm

I have a harmonica that Little Walter owned and recorded with

Man, you'd better get in touch with "Moments In Time" right away and get that thing on consignment!

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Postby houndog » Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:09 pm

Yip,
I like the flip side of this stuff, like the older gtrs I have mebs were played by some guys and gals who were fundemental to the music scene of the last century.

I'll never know, and that is the gtrs secret.

But mebs there is a formula Baldrick.

1/ Geography of guitar ie gtrs in London may have been played by more significant folk than in the Outer Hebrides...but not necessarily. Eg Davey Graham was recently up in one of those remote pointy bits of Scotland where the nearest town is in Norway...

2/ The age of the gtr, older the plank the more likelyhood that it has been spanked by a significant guitar player.

3/ Type of guitar...hmmm I am more likely to take out my working gtrs to a gig/jam/house than one which is a tad fagile/costly ( see avatar).
So mebs expensive gtrs are less likely to see neon clublight...

interesting ehno!

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Postby stumblin » Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:07 pm

I suppose that the chances of that particular guitar being the same guitar as the one in Robert's studio portrait are roughly one in however many of that particular model were made by Gibson. Them's gambler's odds...
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Postby ricochet » Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:55 pm

I'm sure I've read that neither the suit nor the guitar in that picture belonged to Poor Bob.
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Postby bluesmcgoo » Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:48 pm

Yeah, I believe I've read that the guitar actually belonged to Ike Zinneman (?) and that the Kalamazoo in the "photo booth" picture was RJ's.
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