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Build project: semi-hollow LP sized W/pine top

Postby Buffalo_Bill » Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:12 pm

OK, I have an idea to build a LP sized semi-hollow.
I started to think about chambering an Epi LP standard, but nah.
I have a failed deluxe cigar box project collecting dust with over $100 invested in it, so I decided to cut it up and salvage the wood and parts for this electric job.

Here's the failed deluxe cigar box guitar, I never played it. The top is red wood, and the back is Honduran mahagony.
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Here's my stack of wood for the project.
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The sides will be carved out of some Philippine white meranti. I just glued the blocks together:
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I found an Oscar Schmidt, Delta King neck that will work good.
These are some clues about the look.
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Re: Build project: semi-hollow LP sized W/pine top

Postby NEONMOONY » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:48 am

I'm likin' it so far!
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Re: Build project: semi-hollow LP sized W/pine top

Postby leftyguitarman » Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:34 pm

This will be interesting! Are you worried about stability with the pine top? I know pine is a very soft wood. Will the bridge and stop piece be mounted into the pine, or through it and into a wood block?
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Re: Build project: semi-hollow LP sized W/pine top

Postby Buffalo_Bill » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:06 pm

Hey Lefty,
This pic should answer some of those questions, except I'm gonna use the jazz style tailpiece from the square guitar.
Sure pine is soft, so how come so many acoustic guitars have pine tops? The most sought after jazz guitars have a carved pine top, so wassa matter with folks these days they don't think an electric guitar can have a pine top or body?
This guitar ain't bein' built for a teen clod, you know that. :wink:
Just so you know, I've got another neck, and if this prototype works good, I'm gonna make a left handed version. Not that I'm thinking you're gonna buy it, you would probably make your own.
But after looking on eBay for left handed guitars for my nephew, I found out how hard it is to find something, and that lefties are mostly overcharged. So I think that is a viable market.

It took 6 hours to cut this out, including cleaning and greasing my 40 year old jig saw, and making a jig for the router. Then I had to creep up on the right angle for the neck mount.
I screwed a sheet of masonite on the back to support the sides and center until I'm ready to permanently glue on a mahogany back.
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Re: Build project: semi-hollow LP sized W/pine top

Postby leftyguitarman » Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:11 am

I've never heard of a pine topped acoustic guitar before. I didn't know they could hold the string tension. I guess I learned something new today! :mrgreen:

This project looks like it's going to be really cool. As for the lefties, yeah, we get hosed a little bit. There are some great manufacturers out there that really take care of us though. Martin, Larrivee, and Fender, to name a few, offer a wide selection of guitars at no upcharge. Larrivee and Martin actually offer everything they make left handed, for no upcharge. Gibson on the other hand, well, they're just ridiculous, but that's a whole nother thread.

I've never built a guitar; I'm really not that great with my hands and doing stuff like that. Although, I am considering learning to wind pickups. But if you build a lefty, I'd love to follow along!
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Re: Build project: semi-hollow LP sized W/pine top

Postby Buffalo_Bill » Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:58 pm

Got the mahogany back glued on and sanded to match. Later after the top is also glued on I'll do a final sanding and round the edge of the back with a router. I'll bind the top edge to protect it.

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DOH! Made my first blunder!
Cut the top out before making sure I had the orientation right.
It came out left handed. I'll just have to save this top for a left handed guitar.
I ordered some western cedar top wood, but it'll take a week to get here. :|
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Re: Build project: semi-hollow LP sized W/pine top

Postby leftyguitarman » Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:11 am

Well it looks like you have to build a lefty now! :lol:

By the way, if you want to share this future lefty build with some lefties, I'm sure they'd appreciate it over at http://forum.leftyguitartrader.com/
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Re: Build project: semi-hollow LP sized W/pine top

Postby guitarslim101 » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:04 am

Very interested in seeing how this turns out. Looks great so far.
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Re: Build project: semi-hollow LP sized W/pine top

Postby Buffalo_Bill » Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:01 pm

The top wood came today, I've already cut it out and glued the halves together.
I haven't been able to move onward with this because everything mounts over the top wood. However I did cut an access door through the back for wiring, and I rounded the horn to make the binding easier. I'm going to use cream binding on the top and back.

New top wood, western cedar.
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Re: Build project: semi-hollow LP sized W/pine top

Postby leftyguitarman » Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:52 pm

Looks good! I love the grain of cedar. And good idea on the control cavity.

Is this going to have F holes?
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Re: Build project: semi-hollow LP sized W/pine top

Postby Buffalo_Bill » Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:32 pm

Thanks for keeping up Lefty,
Bummer, I already scratched the cedar top… :oops:
Yeah, I'm drawing different S lines on a sheet of scrap paper, comparing f hole ideas.
I read some reviews of semi-hollow guitars, and how some guys say they feedback, in fact the Epiphone Lucile has no f holes.
But I ask you, what kind of man would live with a woman named Lucile, who had no f holes?
Anyway, I like to play my electric guitars unplugged, and a semi sounds pretty good that way, so I'll have them in mine.
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Re: Build project: semi-hollow LP sized W/pine top

Postby Buffalo_Bill » Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:18 pm

Today's progress:
Glued the top on this week and was able to do some work today.
Sanded the sides in even, down to 120 grit.
Attached the neck, wow it feels like a guitar now.
Drilled the bridge post holes.
Bummer! The bit swam a little wide on one hole, so I have to glue a dowel plug into that and start over.
I should have known better, clamped the body down and used a guide template.

edge sanding rig, saved buying a table mount disc/belt sander.
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Body sanding
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Re: Build project: semi-hollow LP sized W/pine top

Postby Buffalo_Bill » Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:48 pm

Strung it up and I'm playin' it! :mrgreen:
Sounds just as loud as my semi-hollow Peavey JF-1 unplugged, (335 copy).
Seems to have plenty of sustain and resonance. I was worried because it's just a fact that resonance and sustain are a trade off, :?: if you wanna give to Paul, you have to take from Peter. :wink:

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The red neck with natural wood looks cool, 8) I don't think I've seen that before.
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Re: Build project: semi-hollow LP sized W/pine top

Postby leftyguitarman » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:11 pm

It's looking great so far! What are you gonna do with that lefty top? 8)
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Re: Build project: semi-hollow LP sized W/pine top

Postby Buffalo_Bill » Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:12 am

Same, except fewer mistakes and blems. This is the prototype, I'm making all my learning mistakes with it.
I have a blue neck for the lefty, and the sinker redwood top. The back will probably be cut from the white meranti blocks.
The next part for this guitar will be installing GFS p-90 pups. I wanna hear the sound of the guitar before I start the binding and finish.
The F holes are still an option, and I'll decide last of all about cutting those in the top, but it seems like it would look better with 'em.
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