1930 National Style O - The real thing?

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1930 National Style O - The real thing?

Postby wanderingyankee » Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:38 pm

Hey folks,

I just acquired my first vintage National at very good price. It''s a 1930 Style O.

I'd love to get some feedback from those who know these guitars...please click on the photo below to see a set of 12 photos.

Let me know if you think it's the real thing or, on the contrary, you see some red flag(s)...

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Thanks in advance for your help!!
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Re: 1930 National Style O - The real thing?

Postby DaveG » Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:02 pm

Don't know if it's real, but it looks pretty cool! Post some sound clips.
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Re: 1930 National Style O - The real thing?

Postby texas blues » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:34 pm

Sweet! Looks like the real dealio to me. She looks righteously mojofied and all natchel'!

Salute',TB.
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Re: 1930 National Style O - The real thing?

Postby leftyguitarman » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:46 pm

If you send it to me I will be able to tell you if it's real or not. :lol:
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Re: 1930 National Style O - The real thing?

Postby bottleneck » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:01 am

i don't know these guitaRS well enough to tell you if it is the real thing.do you have some reason to think it is not?
i CAN tell you it is a very nice guitar.

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Re: 1930 National Style O - The real thing?

Postby diamond » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:24 am

Hi Jon,

That's a real beauty - definitely the genuine article....if Mark Makin says it is...it sure is :wink:

Slide On!

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Re: 1930 National Style O - The real thing?

Postby wanderingyankee » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:51 pm

Hi Ian,

Yes. I saw Mark Makin's feedback...amazing that he knows all that stuff!!

He said: the guitar is a Variation 3 Style 0 from around the end of 1931. Variation 3s have serial numbers from around S1900 to S3420.

The earliest Style 0s from 1930 - variations 1 and 2 have identical patterns on the front (including a half inch wide band of sandblasting around the edge) The backs are different - early ones have a lot of clouds above the palm trees, later ones have only 3 stars.

This guitar has the latter back but no banding on the front, therefore it is a Variation 3.
1930 Style 0s are mostly steel - this one is brass


Finally, the coverplate is called a 'hook-on' plate - (8 half-turn slots fastened by one screw under the strings). These were only made through 1931 into early 1932.

BTW - I'm the guy that gave my diamond evolution to Louisiana Red. Had to get a new one...we talked on the phone...

I just bought a few more of your slides from Brian at Wunjo's ....
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Re: 1930 National Style O - The real thing?

Postby wanderingyankee » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:54 pm

bottleneck wrote:do you have some reason to think it is not the real thing?


It was cheap. Way cheap.
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Re: 1930 National Style O - The real thing?

Postby playon » Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:21 pm

Looks right to me, if it was cheap then lucky you!
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Re: 1930 National Style O - The real thing?

Postby leftyguitarman » Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:34 pm

Congratulations on this by the way. It's a beautiful piece.
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Re: 1930 National Style O - The real thing?

Postby wanderingyankee » Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:11 am

Lenny at Vintage Nationals has her now for assessment, neck re-set and set up. He's also gonna massage out that big dent on the bottom.
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Re: 1930 National Style O - The real thing?

Postby wanderingyankee » Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:35 pm

Here she is on Lenny's operating table:

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Re: 1930 National Style O - The real thing?

Postby snakehips » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:24 pm

Hi there !

That guitar is in lovely cosmetic condition - bar the dents. I'd love to see how Uncle Len gets the dents out.
I have a National Polychrome Triolian with a VERY similar dent in it (probably done exactly the same way.
I took the neck of mine and tried to see if I could get the dents out myself.
There was a wooden block inside (that the end-pin screws into). This block was kind of in the way of trying to get the dents out.
I sent it to my guy for a neck reset and he somewhat got the dent out (but nowhere completely).

Don't worry too much about the guitar as it doesn't really detract from the guitar's otherwise perfect looks.
Great buy my friend !
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Re: 1930 National Style O - The real thing?

Postby whirligig » Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:38 pm

Wow nice buy, beautiful guitar! I love watching Len's videos. I'm sure he'll do a great job on this one.
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Re: 1930 National Style O - The real thing?

Postby Lo-Fi » Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:46 pm

Lovely Guitar - Congrats.

The quickest way to determine whether a Style O is a 1930 or not is the headstock. If it does not have the "red bean" headstock color than chances are it is not a 1930. 1930 Dobros have the same headstock color.
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