Anti-smoking laws

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Re: Anti-smoking laws

Postby JakeyVimto » Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:52 am

Got to admit, I have cut down on the smokes quite a bit since the ban came in last year. And all the single girls who smoke are out front when your walking by, so finding the good bars is easier too :D :D :D

The ban has hurt a couple of my favourite bars, but I figure it has helped a lot of people to quit, and a lot of bars are much more pleasant to go to now, even for a smoker like me.

I do miss the atmosphere of a smoky bar. Which is why I love me the odd trip to the continent. Good luck stopping the French Dutch or Czechs from lighting up indoors... :lol:

So its good and bad, but I agree, getting on people for smoking just doesn't work. We react badly, by and large...

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Re: Anti-smoking laws

Postby allanlummox » Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:19 pm

Jakey, you ever get to any bars in Paisley?
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Re: Anti-smoking laws

Postby JakeyVimto » Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:49 pm

Dan,
I'm a west end citizen these days. I hit Paisley every now and again, but generally I have too much respect for my own life. :)

On topic, my favourite bar, Studio One in Byres Road, smack on the corner where I live, closed down because of the smoking ban. Got remodelled and now sells cocktails. :roll:

The blues band that played there still play nearby, but its not quite the same.

Have you been through Paisley yourself Dan?

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Re: Anti-smoking laws

Postby allanlummox » Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:12 pm

Played at a Pub there, in the mid-90's. I have a very good friend who lives in Glasgow, now, who was born in Paisley; I spent a few days staying at his folks place and exploring. Ok, drinking. The area reminded me of where I grew up, but with a very different accent.

The wife and I also started our honeymoon in Glasgow; then proceeded to walk up Glen Lomond and all the way to Fort William on the West Highland Way. Beautiful country, but the midges ate us alive.
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Re: Anti-smoking laws

Postby JakeyVimto » Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:00 pm

See, I was a rural kid, so places like Paisley and Govan are fairly strange and relatively new to me. Up by Loch Lomond is nice to see. I grew up near the border with England, which is similar to that, but hilly rather than mountainous.

Fair play though, last new years eve, I played a gig in Paisley right by the train station in the very middle of town. Having a smoke break between sets, I was informed that the open square area we looked out onto was affectionately known as 'stab central'. The bar owner stiffed us for our fee because gangsters were leaning on them for loan repayments. :shock:

There are some really good bars along the other end of town, but Ive never played there. I always end up in the dives....

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Re: Anti-smoking laws

Postby allanlummox » Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:03 pm

Ha - I got shafted out of my pay when I played Paisley, too.

Evidently, I played on the same night that a bartender quit - taking the nights proceeds with him.

Flew up from London, spent days on the bus heading back.
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Re: Anti-smoking laws

Postby maxx england » Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:11 am

Heard recently that some pubs, when they have a lock-in, are now getting out the ashtrays. If you're going to be raided by The Lor for after hours drinking, what's a few smokes on top of that?
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Re: Anti-smoking laws

Postby Slim » Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:01 am

The closest large town to where I grew up instituted a smoking ban two years ago but the bars have gotten around them by building screened, heated/cooled porches. So now you go into a bar and you think nobody is there but you go out back and it is packed....silly really! I mean if 95% of patrons smoke.....And then the non smokers are all right there with them so what good does it do. I live in New Orleans now and any place that gets the majority of its money from alchohol sales can allow smoking. There are smoking bars and non smoking bars. This to me has worked out fine. It really shows that it can work and to me is more in line with our countries supposed belief in personal choice. Prohibition never works. I love New Orleans!
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Meanwhile, in Europe...

Postby badfinger » Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:04 am

In The Netherlands, a ban on smoking tobacco in public places comes into force next month.

In The Netherlands, there are about 700 coffee shops where one can legally buy and smoke marijuana.

In The Netherlands, as elsewhere, of course, marijuana is not tobacco, so cannabis is not included in the ban...

In The Netherlands, after next month, you will be legally allowed to light up a joint in any of these coffee shops - as long as there's no tobacco in it.
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Re: Anti-smoking laws

Postby maxx england » Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:12 pm

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Re: Anti-smoking laws

Postby Fishfeathersmacteeth » Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:44 pm

maxx england wrote:Heard recently that some pubs, when they have a lock-in, are now getting out the ashtrays. If you're going to be raided by The Lor for after hours drinking, what's a few smokes on top of that?


...when I had a holiday in Ireland shortly after they brought in the smoking ban in pubs...I was in a lock-in drinking after hours in a pub in Sligo...being very quiet not wanting to alarm the Guards..All the smokers went out the back to smoke becaue it was illegal to smoke in the pub... :lol: Go figger....
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Re: Anti-smoking laws

Postby jellyroll baker » Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:09 am

Update on the Melbourne situation: The smoking ban has been a good thing for business and live music. Seriously. Pubs are reporting a rise in patronage of between 1% and 5%.

Two reasons:
1: The people in Melbourne who enjoy the "specialty" live music (blues, jazz, rockabilly etc.) are often older than those who go to the big shows and chase the trends. These people have quit smoking and really don't want to be choked when they go see music. These guys are returning to the fold and oftentimes they're bringing their kids with them (can't bring the kids to a smokey pub) , passing a love of the blues on to the next generation.

2: OK, this one is realy cool. Every pub in Melbourne has found a outdoors spot that they've turned into a "beer garden" where smokers can puff away to thier hearts content. People are drifting away from the inner-city pubs and clubs which with no smoke to mask the odour now smell of farts, belches and beer and where they can't enjoy a quiet fag or two and are embracing the pub culture, where the music is at.
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Re: Anti-smoking laws

Postby milktrey » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:08 am

in NYC trhere is a smoking ban, but when i went to see Jefferson Starship (/Airplane), Paul Kantner did not give a dam the least bit, he was just smoking like a chimney, and he had the whole technique of playing and hold etc. it was pretty comical.

then when you go to a to an Allman Brothers concert in the Beacon Theater or a Tom Petty concert in a big arena, you dont just smell cigarette smoke...

people have just found ways to hide it, and the security is terrible and stupid

for the casinos, what ive heard is that they dont want people leaving there money inside or taking chips outside to smoke etc. (aka, if people are outside smoking, the people can't be giving there money away to the state)
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Re: Anti-smoking laws

Postby maxx england » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:58 am

[quote= ...when I had a holiday in Ireland shortly after they brought in the smoking ban in pubs...I was in a lock-in drinking after hours in a pub in Sligo...being very quiet not wanting to alarm the Guards..All the smokers went out the back to smoke becaue it was illegal to smoke in the pub... :lol: Go figger....[/quote]

Look, they're Irish :mrgreen:
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Re: Anti-smoking laws

Postby Leonardo32 » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:56 am

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