Solo Piano

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RE: Solo Piano

Postby papatex » Sat Jul 02, 2005 11:30 pm

Fred- I tried the 1st set of voicings for l.h. comping you posted and that's very cool, esp. when I added the right hand chords you gave.
For the I. that's a cool inversion of F6 right? Now you lost me
a little bit on that 2nd set, but I'll go back and try it again
later. Here's another left hand "trick" for a really jazzy sound
that is widely used. (I discovered it in the Blues course at
playpianotoday.com) It's called tri-tone, and if I'm hashing
something you know already, forgive me. O.K, we're still in
F. -L.H. plays A & Eflat for the I. Now lock this hand position
and for the IV, slide down a half-step with both fingers and
play Aflat and D. Now, back up to the I. For V, slide up a half-step
(with both fingers) and play Bflat & E. Play some blues licks against these l.h. voicings and hear them get really jazzy. Hint: This gets muddy sounding really quick if you stray too far below middle C. I forget why this is called tri-tone but I think it has to do with
the even spacing of the intervals. To me it just sounds cool,
and it's pretty easy because of the locked-in hand position. The cool
thing theory-wise about this "trick" are the relationships. (I'm
still talking about the l.h.) In I., look at the A & Eflat. That's
3 & flatted 7. Now just by sliding both fingers down a half-step
on the IV, that inverts the relationship by placing the flat 7
(in V) on the bottom, with 3 on top. The same thing happens going
to the V. You guys may be thinking I have an acute sense of the
obvious ;-), but this was a cool thing when I learned it, cause
it gave me a little jazz tool for my toolbox. It's a very familiar
sound in jazz, as you can hear.
Now- Here's my "set list", and the quotation marks are because
many of these are not ready to roll out for public display, But
I'll list the ones first that I'd attempt with somebody listening!
"Clover Club Romp" (an instrumental shuffle I made up-in C)
"Miss Ann" -w/vocal in E- Probably too high for my voice but I'm
hard-headed!
"Rockhouse" -G
"CC Rider" -C ala Dr. John (barrelhouse instrumental)
"Blues for David Bennett Cohen" -The first ditty I learned when I
sat down 5 1/2 yrs. ago. Can you guess where I got it? I made up
the title cause it's just something he was playing on the tape,
and never identified. In C
"Frankie and Johnny" -Ala Professor Longhair via Dr. John -C
"Hard Luck & Trouble" w/vocal (A former bandmate wrote it back in
my drumming days)- rhumba in G
O.K., I'd try those on ya now, and probably trainwreck em all!!
The next batch are those I'm working to get to the same point:
"Saint Elmo Elmore"- copyright Mike King 2005- A sort of funky
swamp-rock thing I wrote. (w/vocal in B-flat)
"The Thrill is Gone" - instrumental in Am
"Sittin' on the Dock of the Bay" -instrumental in G
"Jump Straddle Boogie" Copyright Mike King 2004 -in G- My first
effort at Boogie Woogie.
"Demo Jazz" -F If you have a Yamaha P-80, play the demo for jazz
organ. I'm playing it on piano sound. Again, I don't know what the
piece is actually called.
"She Loves You" (arrngmnt. Mike King) My jazz version of the Beatles
tune.
"Get Back" Instrumental in A of another Fab-4 tune. I love B.
Preston's ride and have tried to cop it ~fairly~ close.
"Pinetop's Boogie" -E-flat I can almost pull off a short version.
Dr. John shows you all the parts very clearly on his tape, including
the killer left-hand pattern.
"Dust My Broom" w/vocal -D- I need Doc playing slide on this!
(I sort of mimic the famous E. James lick on piano.) And sometimes
I work on playing harp on a rack.
"St. James Infirmary" -Em -I do it as a sort of mid-tempo march.
w/vocal
"Georgia on my Mind" -G -instrumental.
"Nobody Knows You When You're Down & Out" -G w/vocal
"Demo Rock" -G Another rip-off from the P-80 demos. (piano rock)
........These tunes make up the lion's share of my weekly practicing.
There's another handful of tunes I'm working on that are in earlier
stages of development: "Moanin'", "Summertime","Linus & Lucy",
"Key to the Highway"....Well, that's about it! Keeps me busy!
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RE: Solo Piano

Postby papatex » Sun Jul 03, 2005 12:25 am

Found a mistake in my little treatise: Should have said "Now just by
sliding both fingers down a half-step on the IV, that inverts the relationship by placing the flat-7 (in IV) on the bottom with 3 on
top. M.K.
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RE: Solo Piano (Hey Doc, Mike, Ric , & Othe

Postby fred » Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:29 pm

Thanks Guys for the songs info! It always boosts my morale & sense of direction when I recognize & can appreciate the material others are working on or songs that they include in their sets. From the perspective of a beginning piano player, when I know particular tunes & am familiar w/the preferred artists' versions of the tunes, I understand immediately the task involved in working up the tunes, learning to perform them & successfully incorporating then into sets that keep listners wanting more! Doc--I sure like your mix! Mike--you are,without a doubt, in the right track!

Mike! You are also right on w/tritone buzz! Remember the LH/RH stuff--the 2nd positions you were going to try--the tritone voicing is what makes it sound so cool (to my ear at least!). Hey--work those Beatle songs! I love those 2 & I love to sing Fixing A Hole, want to be able to sing/play Birthday & Back in the USSR. OR's Dock of the Bay was one of the first songs I learned to play well (progression) on guitar--played & sang it everytime/everywhere we played! I'm so impressed w/your getting so much of Dr. John's work under your hands! I want Pine Top & Cow Cow Boogie bad, but I've got a while to go before I get there! I've got Texas Boogie, New Orleans 8-Bar Blues, Motor Junket Blues, & James Booker Blues down fairly good--but I'm still a ways away from mastering Qualified, St. James Infirmary, Frankie and Johnny, & C.C. Rider.

Doc! I read the Gig post--I admire your civil-minded atitude in dealing w/a caustic bandmember ordeal--the situation could only have continued to deteriorate. I believe you really strive to keep sight of your moral compass--& it's no surprise--you are indeed a true bearer of the torch (that w/a brilliant flame of blue!). I always liked DrJ's Such A Night (his rendering in The Last Waltz was a classic of classics!)--it may look/sound simple enough, but that LH will make or break you. Talk about sing-a-longs--do you do Let's Go Get Stoned? Folks love to sing that chorus!

Doc/Mike--Hardtimes & Nobody knows You... are a must & when Doc mentioned JReed, I thought about a real must for any beginning/intermed/adv key, guitar, &/or harp player--From the Masters of The Blues series: 12 Hits From The Best Of Jimmy Reed. I've worn out my tape playing along on either keyboard (LH rhythm), guitar (LH&RH), or harp (phrasing/riffs)--the more you play along w/the songs, the more licks/runs you learn to incorporate! Doc--I'd might ner buy a bus ticket just to come hear/see you do What'd, Mojo, Lovelight, & Turn Loose! What a hoot you're boung to raise w/those hooters! I'll bet your TLTenderness gets a lot of belly buttons well acquainted!

Ric! Hey I'm glad you mentioned BT&MG's! I've got That's The Way It Should Be. They do an inst. of Ann Peebles's classic, I Can't Stand The Rain & SC's handling of the signature guitar riff is, to say the least, pure Cropper!

MissNinni--where are you--I thought about you & NS's style--do you do AP's song?

On last item! I only just saw Blues Brothers 2000 a couple of wks ago & if Jr Wells & Lonnie Brooks Lookin for a Fox wasn't enough to make it worth the view, James Brown layin down Please Please at the end certainly was. If I am not mistaken in remembering, so help me out, but I believe the I saw the classic live broadcast of JB doing PP on the Ed Sullivan show--'63-4-5??? One thing for sure--the stage presence of this legendary soul talent has not waned! Anybody ever here his arrangement of Kansas City! The punches are brilliant!
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RE: Solo Piano (Hey Doc, Mike, Ric , & Othe

Postby meilankev » Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:01 pm

Fred,

While I rotate many songs in my "play list", some remain pretty constant. Also, I change all of them - some of them so much, you would only be able to recognize them by the lyrics. I also throw 4 or 5 original tunes into the mix.

The core songs are:
"Have You Ever Loved a Woman?"
"I'll Get Along Somehow" (old Lonnie Johnson tune)
"Lucky Old Sun"
"People Get Ready"
"Nobody Knows You when You're Down and Out"
"Johnsburg, Illinois" (Tom Waits tune)
"Song For You" (Leon Russell)
"Come Home For Christmas"
"Have a Little Faith" (John Hiatt)
"Hoodoo Man Blues"

While not an entirely blues set, my bastardization of these songs (and others) brings them closer to the Blues genre than the originals.

I hope this helps...

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RE: Solo Piano (Hey Doc, Mike, Ric , & Othe

Postby doc williamson » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:34 pm

All of these are great posts I just read. It is so good to see what other songs piano players are playing and it gives me ideas of songs to add. I used to do "Let's Go Get Stoned" and you're right it would be a good song for me to pickup again. More later.

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RE: Solo Piano (Hey Doc, Mike, Ric , & Othe

Postby fred » Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:06 pm

Thanks MK! I've got to listen to TWait's song & HooDoo... Sorta like Doc implied in his following post, it does nothing but help me when others share the tunes they perform! Also the blues reviews & what are you listening to? threads have helped direct my ears to some sweet sounds I didn't know existed. I read on another forum somewhere that (paraphrased) the major limitation in the pursuit of playing & learning music is death! I think--rather objectively--about that & strive to deal w/it. So much music; so little time! I'm listening & learning every day, & rather than depress, the observation actually serves to inspire me! Cheers!
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RE: Solo Piano (Hey Doc, Mike, Ric , & Othe

Postby jeffl » Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:56 pm

Fred: ain't it nice that you can play music 'til you die...? I jam with a bunch about 40 miles away that I've played with for about a dozen years, and I'm lookin' forward to another 20 years of it, if I live that long.
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RE: Solo Piano (Hey Doc, Mike, Ric , & Othe

Postby ricochet » Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:56 pm

I have a demented elderly lady patient in the nursing home who was a lifelong piano player. Got to where she couldn't play it any more (arthritis in the hands), so she took up harp blowing.
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RE: Solo Piano (Hey Doc, Mike, Ric , & Othe

Postby fred » Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:32 pm

Bubba, Ric--that's good stuff! Attitude is everything. Sadly, there was another thread I followed that was stoked by some dh that claimed to be bored w/playing. Man, if your head's on straight & you've got any ability/vehicle at all to make music--that's just plain sicko!
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RE: Solo Piano (Hey Doc, Mike, Ric , & Othe

Postby jeffl » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:06 pm

>I have a demented elderly lady patient in the nursing home
>who was a lifelong piano player. Got to where she couldn't
>play it any more (arthritis in the hands), so she took up
>harp blowing.
> :7
>
>"A cheerful heart is good medicine."
So did you offer to jam with her,Rico? She couldn't be any more demented than you, so where could the problem be....? (I also knew a great honky-tonk piano player,who had made his living in barrelhouses,who had to quit cuz of arthritis-that does suck (diffuse pun).
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RE: Solo Piano (Hey Doc, Mike, Ric , & Othe

Postby ricochet » Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:33 am

>She couldn't be any more demented than you....?

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