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Super Glue

Postby houserocker » Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:07 am

I know this has been covered before breifly here on this forum. I have been doing alot of acoustic gigs lately 2 to 3 a week and my fingertips were beimg destroyed! Despite the large callouses on the tips of my fingers they were literally being wore off, a little at a time. One of my partners and I were talking and I was complaining about the fingertips being whittled away. He showed me his trick of putting a thin layer of super glue on his fingertips before he plays, it sure helps as he plays about 5 to 6 days a week and his fingertips are fine, not even big callouses on them, I couldn't beleive it. But now I'm a beleiver, so give it a try one day as it wears off in a day or so. I was afraid it would flake off and get in the strings but it doesn't. Works great!

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Postby jeffl » Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:16 am

Charlie: I wuz playin' so much piano a coupla years ago that I had trouble with my fingers bleedin', until I started paintin' 'em with super glue. It got me thru a few rough months, until they healed up. Those were dark days; it hurt to play and I'd have to wipe the blood smears off my ivories. Pretty sick.
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Postby houserocker » Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:28 am

Hi Jeff, I think it was you that originally was talking about this. Blood on the Ivories, sounds like an Album Title.

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Postby ricochet » Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:32 pm

Just let the superglue dry before you start playing.
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Postby houserocker » Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:03 pm

Excellent point Ricochet!

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Postby jeffl » Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:03 pm

Maybe that's where the title "Sticky Fingers" came from.....
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Postby maxx england » Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:00 am

Ric, my brother, who has had some radical surgery in his time, tells me superglue was invented as a medical alternative to stitching. Is this right?
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Postby ricochet » Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:49 pm

I think it may have been an accidental discovery, as so many others have been. Back when I was in high school (early '70s), Eastman Chemical Company had the first version of it I knew about, called Eastman 910. Wasn't generally available commercially yet.

Superglue's been used to "stitch" cuts for a long time, but an officially approved medical version came out back in the mid 90s or so.
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Postby mickeypainless » Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:51 pm

Superglue has been a mainstay in my Vet bag for years now. Had a horse bite down ona finger my first day in the wet lab in school and a old rodeo cowboy closed it up for me and said he'd been using it for ages! Good stuff for skin but it don't hold dentures together for very long! :o
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Postby savage » Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:15 pm

yeah, its deffinately somethin to carry around when yer playing music. I cut my index finger on my fretting hand one day at a practice the day of the show. I tried to play with it cut, which opened it up even more. I put a little neosporin inside and then topped it with super glue. Held together for the rest of the practice and most of the show. It actually came off near the end of a solo on our last song. I bent a note really hard and that string went right inside the cut and pulled the skin back. Heh, i tried to finish up the best I could. I think I tried to substitute with my middle finger, but that super glue really helped a lot.
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Postby raiph » Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:12 pm

It's worth noting that medical superglues (cyanoacrylate adhesives) differ somewhat from the superglues on sale for domestic and industrial use.

The common-or-garden household types can generate (sometimes intense) local heating effects as part of the curing process which can at least hurt, and at worst cause more tissue damage.

They are also unlikely to be sterile, so infection of an open wound can arise.

Also be aware that there are several varieties of superglue for many purposes, each having different ingredients - to say "superglue" is like saying "paint".

Industrial and "domestic" superglues, as opposed to medical versions, will also contain other possibly harmful substances to achieve various goals regarding curing, rigidity (or flexibility), photo-stability...etc. One in particular I have used contained a reasonable dose of arsenic.

However, you could use whatever is around for years, without harm... But you just don't know, until it happens.

So, maybe for safety's sake, find a medically-intended superglue - I believe they do exist.

Another possible candidate might be the adhesive used by nail technicians to stick false nails on - that's a type of "superglue", but one specifically made to be used in contact with human tissues.
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Postby maxx england » Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:29 pm

[quote="raiph"] Also be aware that there are several varieties of superglue for many purposes, each having different ingredients - to say "superglue" is like saying "paint". .[/quote]

I've worked for several years in an adhesive supplier, and often people have asked for a glue for "plastic". You ask them what kind of plastic and the answer is "plastic", totally failing to understand there's a whole world of them, not just one or two types.

Incidentally, if you talk to a specialist supplier, you can get electrically conductive epoxy resins if you have an area where conductivity is required and solder/heat is out of the question. There's even (please God, don't let Rico or someother Low Fellow get hold of this) [u]conductive rubbers[/u].
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Postby ricochet » Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:39 pm

[quote="maxx england"][u]conductive rubbers[/u].[/quote]

If your relationship's lacking spark, that could help.

My old favorite J-B Weld is an epoxy with powdered steel in it. Dunno whether it's conductive.
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Postby maxx england » Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:22 am

Don't know about conductivity, but you probably wouldn't want to trust it's insulating properties.

A lot of people still don't know about the toughened acrylics that are around. These go to higher temperatures than normal epoxies before degradation occurs, and don't require the absolute cleanliness of joint faces that epoxies do, and have vastly reduced cure and handling times.
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Postby Catweazle » Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:45 am

So, to summarise. You are advocating the use of a few drops of medical-grade superglue in an electrically conductive condom - is that correct?
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