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What's up with that?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:17 pm
by oleman
In our house band gig at a fairly upscale bar, my partner and I play our butts off. Sometimes the patrons are really groovin, tappin their feets, head bobbin and enjoying what we do and hang around for a set or two.
Then get up and pass the tip jar by like it didn't even exist. I know they saw it cause it's big with THANKS written of it. We play for drinks, tips and just a little moola from the cash register.
I always tip my fellow musicians even if I don't like their stuff; seems like common courtesy to me. Am I expecting too much?

It's the same at a BBQ joint gig we occasionally play at. What are your experiences.

Thanks for letting me share!

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:34 pm
by ricochet
I'm with you on the tipping thing. Last night I gave $10 to a lady Christian singer who overstayed her time by half, got too preachy, and I'm not even really fond of contemporary Christian music.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:14 pm
by dcblues
I used to play in a duo at a place where musicians worked for tips. We did best when once or twice a night the signer/guitarist would send me out with the tip jar in one hand and a harp in the other. I would play a little at each table and people would usually tip well. Good way to make tips, but I felt a little like an organ grinder's monkey. :)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:50 pm
by jaybee
do NOT just pass a tip jar around, have a girlfriend or girl friend, or even a friendly female relative of the bartender go around with it. I used to do some busking in my younger years and I even went as far as paying commission to girls if they wanted to go around with the tip jar. I could keep the music going AND there was a friendly girl with a big smile asking for a tip... always worked 8)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:27 pm
by savage
thats a good idea... ill have to keep that one in mind, thanks jaybee

...just gotta be sure she dont take any money from the jar

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:44 pm
by oleman
Would it be inappropriate for us to fall to our knees and beg after every set.
Maybe a battery operated tip jar that waves the flag and plays a rousing Sousa march, just to bring attention to itself.

Or lock the entrance and charge the opposite of a cover charge.

A pistol next to the tip jar might send a message.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:18 pm
by bosco
The few times we just put a tip jar "out", it was met with minimal response, usually just $5.00 or $10.00 tops.

If it won't piss off the bar, mention several times a set that it is a donated performance and some gas money and new guitar strings would be appreciated. We did that at a festival we played for free last year and wound up with over $25.00 in a guitar case.

I think that if you aren't on a street corner or don't bring it to their attention, most patrons assume you are being paid by the bar. The majority of people also incorrectly assume entertainers are well paid, and they were years ago before D.J.s and Karaoke undercut the market. People are usually astonished when I tell them how little we actually are paid and what local scale is.

Oh yeah...the perky babe passing the jar around is still the best method.

:wink:

Bosco

PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:59 am
by warren
i think you are right....i bet most people assume you are making good bucks for the gig. Not sure what the best way would be let people know the real deal though.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:52 am
by jaybee
savage wrote:thats a good idea... ill have to keep that one in mind, thanks jaybee

...just gotta be sure she dont take any money from the jar


:roll: do I have to think of EVERYTHING? 8)
the less clothes she wears, the less places to hide any money :wink: 8)

or ypu could use the old Irish trick, that gave passing the jar the name of "bottleing": get an empty bottle (or empty a bottle :wink: ), catch a fly and put it in the bottle, the one passing the tip jar holds the jar in one hand, the bottle in the other, thumb closing it. If the fly is not in the bottle when (s)he comes back, (s)he's had his/her hand in the jar! :shock:

PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:28 pm
by jellyroll baker
In my experience most patrons tend to assume that the bands fee directly proportional to the inflated bar prices. The more you buy for a poorly mixed, bottom-shelf cocktail the more they think that band is taking home. If only they knew.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:25 am
by fat paul
I rember when I first moved to Albuquerque I was bartending, the tips were not as good as other places I lived. NM is a very poor state
fat paul

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:15 am
by grady
Never play just for Tips.

always get a flat fee.

The last time I played for tips was in Ricochet's Hometown.

If it weren't for him and his friend, I wouldn't have left there with anything at all.

They were very kind and generous and I appreciate that.
Of course, just having the pleasure of meeting Ric in Person was worth the drive to Bristol.
Not to mention, I got to see his Vette...LOL !!

I always put something in the Tip jar at other people's shows.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:23 am
by ricochet
grady wrote:The last time I played for tips was in Ricochet's Hometown.

If it weren't for him and his friend, I wouldn't have left there with anything at all.
I hoped we weren't that obvious!

It was great to see you here. But I knew that gig was gonna suck from a business standpoint.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:24 am
by ricochet
Oh yeah, the 'Vette:

Image

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:07 pm
by bosco
The 'Vette....atta baby!

In the early 90s I had a Chevy Cavalier I fondly called the Cavillac!

Bosco