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brilliant vocal gadget or gimmick???

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:57 am
by multisounds
Hey Folks,

You gotta hear this!!! It's ralated to "singing" the blues as one example. I found a product that can be used to "enhance" proper pitch correction and add various vocal styles to a performance. So, from what i can gather, if you sing out of key, it will automatically adjust it so that it will sound right!!! That's gotta be a great thing for struggling singers who now can have the confidence and play live.!!

Has anyone ever used or experienced similar gadget. If so, please tell me the advantages it will bring. After all, technology is playing a big part to helping musicians in various forms. But the big question is this. Can a $2000 dollar product step in and make anyone sound like or close to Pavorotti?? If so, then why take singing lessons at all????? :shock:

I know from alot of music talk in the past has suggested that even some international artist has used similar gadgets to give better soundinf voices!!! I won't name who they are but if they're using it, then why not for weekend giggers like some of us??? It's gotta be good for us don't you think??

Cheers
Multi

Re: brilliant vocal gadget or gimmick???

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:14 am
by zhyla
The examples I've heard sound very sterile, which is kind of opposite most blues vocal styles.

Re: brilliant vocal gadget or gimmick???

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:20 am
by Bournio
Yeah they're not very good... unless you want a sound like Cher's believe, It's good for that! and as zhyla said it sounds very sterile, maybe setting it so that it doesnt have a huge effect may be a good effect? I don't know!

Re: brilliant vocal gadget or gimmick???

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:30 pm
by allanlummox
Learn how to sing.

It's easy and fun.

The machine can't sing the blues. It was just fun to build.

Why would you want to make music, if you don't actually want to make music?

Re: brilliant vocal gadget or gimmick???

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:07 pm
by maxx england
These 2 were recorded at Darowyn's place using the fancy kit, it's given me something that doesn't quite frighten the public, but I think it's still blues:

http://www.darowyn.co.uk/Maxx/Use%20My%20Brain.mp3

http://www.darowyn.co.uk/Maxx/One%20in%20Four.mp3

Yes, learning to sing properly is a good idea, and I'll carry on working at it, but until that fine day when somebody tells me to put the guitar down and just sing, I'm happy to use this stuff in order to demo a song.

Re: brilliant vocal gadget or gimmick???

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:26 pm
by boogiechillun85
I have a philosophical objection this sort of thing.

But don't listen to me, I feel the same way about multitracking. :roll:

Re: brilliant vocal gadget or gimmick???

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 3:01 pm
by allanlummox
Maxx, the first one doesn't really sound "better".

What are people looking for out of music?

Re: brilliant vocal gadget or gimmick???

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 3:31 pm
by maxx england
We're lucky that we have this place to be in and meet people who like real music, there's a lot of "industry product" out there. I just want to have fun, however it's done within legal bounds. Including parties when visiting Americans turn up. :mrgreen:

Re: brilliant vocal gadget or gimmick???

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:25 pm
by allanlummox
So we won't be having any Illegal fun? Drat.

Re: brilliant vocal gadget or gimmick???

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:30 pm
by maxx england
allanlummox wrote:So we won't be having any Illegal fun? Drat.


Just because you don't admit to a thing doesn't make it not happen :wha: I mean would I, an ordinary everyday bloke who plays music, go around committing gross illegalities? Or even minor ones. As if I would even think of such a thing.

Re: brilliant vocal gadget or gimmick???

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:16 pm
by allanlummox
Hey, me neither.

And I'd never post the details online.

Just a harmless musician.

Re: brilliant vocal gadget or gimmick???

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:23 pm
by grady
I'm a big fan of Technology and I love to use it with my music.

I say, if you can afford it, use it.

Re: brilliant vocal gadget or gimmick???

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:18 pm
by allanlummox
Hey, technology is great, and folks can do what they want.

Learning to sing is satisfying; I don't see where pretending to sing would be as fun.

And I must confess, there's this one effect where the singers voice goes all warbly and turns into a kind of synth-clarinet that I've heard on a few songs, and it really sounds like ass to me.

But I don't get Guitar Hero either...hey, does anyone still play that?

Re: brilliant vocal gadget or gimmick???

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:25 pm
by maxx england
You leave Guitar Hero alone. It allows the feeble to respectably get away with playing with themselves. Sorry, alone :mrgreen:

Re: brilliant vocal gadget or gimmick???

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:26 am
by multisounds
Hi Folks,

Yeah, no doubt, being able to sing is important and I can understand why some people will not get a product like this as they may think it's an "imposter" to their musical philosophy-fully appreciated. But on the other side of the coin, I'm not talking about someone who's venturing into singing for the first time, but someone who's been down the road for a little longer and can sing "reasonably" or for want of a better word "adequately". Wouldn't this kind of gadget make their day great and their performace when gigging be "appreciable" while knowing you may never be Jose Careres but can live with it for the rest of your life??? :D

I'm thinking of getting one! LOL :)

Some people will not even see a live band if they know the band will be using midi-tracks or pre-programmed tracks such as bass or drums as an example. So I asked them-why not see this band live??? They would say because it's "superficial", "not natural", "easy way out", or "sound chittttt!!". But hey. a duo or solo act cannot get any other musos in time for a gig and they must download pre-recorded tracks from the net and take it along to a gig-WHAT ELSE CAN THIS POOR BLOKE DO????

So I don't think vocal pitch adjuster is in this category, because it's not pre-recorded, no download, just a simple simultaneous singing controller that gives better sound??? Don't you think I'm right???

Oh btw way, why not see a backing track recorded act?? Still music isn't it??

Cheers
Multi