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Echo or reverb loop recommendations?

Postby LesFromChicago » Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:04 am

I have a little CRATE TAXI 30. It has no reverb. One thing I miss about my old Silvertone amp was the reverb.
The Crate does have what the user manual calls an effects loop jack.
I was wondering could I get an echo loop or reverb loop to plug in there.
Can anyone recommend such a gizmo?
Please try not to get real technical, as I am totally unfamiliar with all those pedals and effects and things like that. Only thing I've ever plugged into an amp are guitars and microphones.
But I will try to understand and replies best I can.

Thanks.
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Re: Echo or reverb loop recommendations?

Postby ricochet » Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:21 am

Les, I don't know how you can add an effects loop without internal amp mods. I think you're best to stick with using effects in front of the amp.
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Re: Echo or reverb loop recommendations?

Postby LesFromChicago » Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:33 am

ricochet wrote:Les, I don't know how you can add an effects loop without internal amp mods. I think you're best to stick with using effects in front of the amp.


Sorry Rico that is somewhat over my head. By "in front of the amp" do you just mean what ever jacks come with the amp as standard equipment?


There is an jack specifically for effects loops, The instructions say to use a stereo plug and then the magic electronic substance goes from the amp to the effects gizmo on one side of the stereo and back into the amp thru the other side of the stereo.
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Re: Echo or reverb loop recommendations?

Postby ricochet » Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:18 am

Well, if it has effects loop jacks, that is your effects loop. It means that instead of plugging effects in ahead of the amp (between the guitar and the amp), you have the capability of running certain effects between stages of the amp. A line goes out from the effects out jack of the amp to the effect, and a line goes back from the effect to the effect return jack on the amp for final amplification. You'll have to check your effects' manuals to see if they can accept a "line level signal" instead of the lower voltage signal that normally comes from a guitar amp.
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Re: Echo or reverb loop recommendations?

Postby deltablues57 » Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:29 pm

why not take the amp to your local guitar center. Tell them you want reverb and let them give you a crash course on what is available. I'm sure there are several options that would work in your situation.
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Re: Echo or reverb loop recommendations?

Postby jaybee » Thu Dec 25, 2008 8:42 am

get a reverb pedal (BOSS, Digitech,...), then go following route:

gtr--->amp input

effects send--->pedal input - pedal output ---> effects return

the effects loop is good for any time-based effects: delay, reverb, chorus, flanger, phaser

wah/overdrive/distortion/compression/eq pedals go between gtr and amp

hope this helps 8)
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Re: Echo or reverb loop recommendations?

Postby Troubleman » Thu Dec 25, 2008 1:55 pm

You can add a loop (passive) to your amp - after the preamp but before the power amp. It won't be buffered or have volume controls, but for many delay/modulation stompboxes, between the preamp and power amp is where they should be.
As far as models - look at TC Electronics NOVA Delay and NOVA Reverb pedals. HIGHLY recommended..

pEAcE,

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Re: Echo or reverb loop recommendations?

Postby grady » Thu Dec 25, 2008 4:45 pm

His amp already has an effects loop.
It uses a Insert cable which is 1-1/4 inch stereo plug and 2- 1/4 inch mono plugs like this,
http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-HOS-STP202-LIST

A Holy Grail Reverb pedal is hard to beat.
I have one of the original models in near Mint condition that I'm not using anymore that I'll sell you for $75.00 plus shipping if you want it.
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Re: Echo or reverb loop recommendations?

Postby LesFromChicago » Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:13 pm

THANKS TO ALL FOR YOUR REPLIES. :wink:


GRADY I MIGHT TAKE YOU UP ON YOUR OFFER.
I GOT MY BROTHER WHO LIVES IN YUKON (west of OKC) IS THAT ANYHWERES NEAR YOU?
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Re: Echo or reverb loop recommendations?

Postby tinsmith » Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:55 am

I saw Doyle Dykes last month at a Taylor Workshop/concert. He recommended what he used, which was given to him by a fan.

He uses Boss "Space Echo."

Doyle sounded excellent. I'd buy it no problem....IMHO
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Re: Echo or reverb loop recommendations?

Postby grady » Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:05 am

LesFromChicago wrote:THANKS TO ALL FOR YOUR REPLIES. :wink:


GRADY I MIGHT TAKE YOU UP ON YOUR OFFER.
I GOT MY BROTHER WHO LIVES IN YUKON (west of OKC) IS THAT ANYHWERES NEAR YOU?


It's here if you want it.
I live in West Virginia.
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Re: Echo or reverb loop recommendations?

Postby LesFromChicago » Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:06 pm

grady wrote:I live in West Virginia.



Ooops, some reason I thought you were in Oklahoma!

Well I'll let you know soon about buying your grail, hopefully before the opportunity passes...
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Re: Echo or reverb loop recommendations?

Postby LesFromChicago » Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:47 am

Grady, Thanks for the generous offer of that Holy Grail, but I have gone with a Danelectro FAB Echo pedal instead, it has the option of battery power, and from reviews I've read it performs well as a simple slap-back echo, which would satisfy my "reverb" need.
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Re: Echo or reverb loop recommendations?

Postby grady » Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:14 am

No problem. I'll just put it on Ebay.
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