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Postby mike932 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:15 am

I have seen ads for various amp to speaker attenuators ie "hotplate" . I searched the BRB files didn't see any posts, so does anybody have an experience, knowledge , war stories etc?
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Re: attenuators

Postby grady » Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:25 am

Some people love 'em, some people don't.

On the same note, Does anyone know if they make a Impedance switcher that you can run between a amp & speaker cabinet ??
My Fender Champ 600 is 4 ohms and I have a delicious 1-15 Speaker cab that is 8 ohms.
I'd love to run them together.
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Re: attenuators

Postby leftyguitarman » Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:36 pm

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7631

Some info there. A bit of a debate too.
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Re: attenuators

Postby mike932 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:02 pm

Thanks, that solved my need to further investigate the need for one.
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Re: attenuators

Postby texxx » Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:20 am

they all suck except the DR Z and it kinda suck's they cook your tubes and take out your headroom
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Re: attenuators

Postby ricochet » Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:34 am

Yeah, folks forget that about the "cranked tube tone." That means ONE volume, all the time, and no dynamics at all. Sounds the same, exciting at first, can get boring. Volume knobs were meant to be used.
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Re: attenuators

Postby mike932 » Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:53 am

Not all knobs work. The knob on my TV says "brightness", but the programs stay dumb no matter how far I turn the knob. The best knob says "OFF".
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Re: attenuators

Postby jpfeiff » Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:13 pm

I've heard a lot of folks swear by the Ultimate Attenuator--but it's kind of pricey

http://www.ultimateattenuator.com/
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Re: attenuators

Postby grady » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:37 pm

mike932 wrote:Not all knobs work. The knob on my TV says "brightness", but the programs stay dumb no matter how far I turn the knob. The best knob says "OFF".


Ha !!!
Good one !!
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Re: attenuators

Postby Troubleman » Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:17 pm

grady wrote:Some people love 'em, some people don't.

On the same note, Does anyone know if they make a Impedance switcher that you can run between a amp & speaker cabinet ??
My Fender Champ 600 is 4 ohms and I have a delicious 1-15 Speaker cab that is 8 ohms.
I'd love to run them together.


I asked the same question of Jeff Bober - Budda Amplification designer/builder.
According to him, a 4 ohm load into an 8 ohm cabinet should be ok. Bigger mismatches - not so much...


jb
ps: that's one rockin' l'il fender too!
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Re: attenuators

Postby RootNote » Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:10 pm

I have a DR Z Airbrake and a Weber Mini Mass, both of which will give allow the amps to overdrive at bedroom levels. I used to use them at gigs and just keep raising the OD level during the gig, mostly in bars as the night wore on. Used them with my Fender amps. They do use up tubes as pointed out above.

Then I discovered Overdrive pedals, got a Boss Super Overdrive SD-1 with gain at 9:00, which solved OD at lower levels. Then I discovered Barber LTD pedal, which totally preserves natural Fender clean, better than SD-1 for natural OD. Then got a Boss CS-3 Compressor/sustain pedal, totally transparent, which gives sustain to die for, ala BB. Then discovered Barber Tone Press, better than Boss CS-3. So the 2 Barber pedals for $200 totally replaced need for attenuator, at home and at gigs. And, I leave pedals on all the time. My '65 Princeton Reverb has reverb/trem also. I have OD and sustain at any volume.

If I use any other amp that has a clean channel w/out reverb/trem I just use a Boss/Fender 65 Twin Reverb pedal, and volia!, instant Fender reverb/trem, plus i use the Barbers. I also have a Boss Blues Driver for solos. All of the above pedals are transparent on a clean channel, any brand, tubes or SS.
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