What if there's no truss rod?

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What if there's no truss rod?

Postby leftyguitarman » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:58 pm

My first guitar, an old 70's or 80's Hofner Classical, is in dire need of some adjusting. The action around frets 1-4 is fine but from 5 and up, the action is ridiculously high, and you can see the bow in the neck. There's no truss rod though. Is the guitar pretty much not fixable, or does a neck reset fix that? This guitar has amazing tone and it's my first guitar, so I'm never going to get rid of it. I just wish it was more playable. Because it's so out of whack, I don't give it as much attention as it deserves. So can it be fixed?

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Re: What if there's no truss rod?

Postby Slim » Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:03 am

play in first position?
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Re: What if there's no truss rod?

Postby ricochet » Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:08 am

Get a steel and play lap slide.
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Re: What if there's no truss rod?

Postby leftyguitarman » Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:32 am

Slides and nylon strings do not go so well together. If it was a steel string I would do that, actually. Not a bad idea. I just hate how she's no fun to play.
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Re: What if there's no truss rod?

Postby Bournio » Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:12 am

I used to slide on nylon strings. Why don't they go together?
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Re: What if there's no truss rod?

Postby maxx england » Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:34 am

Don't know much about construction, but I have a feeling this one's now more decorative than playable. Electric strings will just bend it in two, but didn't somebody mention steel string specially for acoustics once?
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Re: What if there's no truss rod?

Postby Bournio » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:48 am

Yeah, they're called something like Folk strings or summat like.

But I guess it depends on slide material, I used to se a moonshine slide on my classical and i liked the sound!
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Re: What if there's no truss rod?

Postby leftyguitarman » Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:44 pm

I think the reason I don't like the sound of nylon and slide is because of the volume maybe. There isn't enough volume from the nylon strings, and the slide sound dies out rather quick. I've used glass and brass slides on it, and didn't like either. I think in order to get the volume from it for slide, you'd have to use a pick, which is never going to happen. I absolutely detest the sound of picks and nylon strings together. Not sure why, it just sounds awful to my ears.
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Re: What if there's no truss rod?

Postby Bournio » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:02 pm

leftyguitarman wrote:I absolutely detest the sound of picks and nylon strings together. Not sure why, it just sounds awful to my ears.


It is a bizarre sound! and not good!
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Re: What if there's no truss rod?

Postby guitarslim101 » Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:11 pm

Have you tried lowering the bridge saddle at all? It may not make it play like a dream, but it could help and be much less work than a neck re-set. You could also rig up a neck-straightening jig, but they aren't exactly cheap and may not work anyways.
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Re: What if there's no truss rod?

Postby leftyguitarman » Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:41 pm

I never thought about lowering the saddle, but after looking at it, I'm sure it would create a lot of fret buzz on the lower frets.

I'm gonna go take some pics.

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Frets 1-3


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Around the 12th fret.
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Re: What if there's no truss rod?

Postby guitarslim101 » Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:32 pm

Ah yeah, doesn't look like you could do much with the saddle then.
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Re: What if there's no truss rod?

Postby Slim » Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:20 pm

I am no Luthier but have done a bit of carpentry...If you wanted to lower the upper end and keep the lower end okay could you lower the bridge saddle and raise the nut height thus keeping the ratio? I mean you would have to figure where the the break point is and then basically figure out how to see saw it to your liking?? May be more trouble than it is worth but hel if you got extra time
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Re: What if there's no truss rod?

Postby texas blues » Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:41 am

I'm feelin ya' Lefty....the morning I woke up after getting married the night before...I found I had no spine. Although, I did figure out how to raise the nut!

Cheers, TB.
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Re: What if there's no truss rod?

Postby songdog » Fri Oct 10, 2008 2:18 am

You can raise this and lower that but the only thing that's going to make it really playable again is straightening the neck.... truss me :P I know from experience.
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