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Pat Hare

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:20 pm
by boweavil blues
Has anyone ever tried working out any of his stuff, solo or as a sideman? I've been struggling with his playing for a while now.

Thanks

RE: Pat Hare

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:15 pm
by bighollowtwang
I used to do both "Cotton Crop" and "Spending My Bonus Pay" with my old band...similar style (and tone) to Howlin Wolf's old guitar player Willie Johnson.

RE: Pat Hare

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:40 am
by boweavil blues
Hey Zak

I think that Bonus Pay and Gonna Murder My Baby are in G, and Cotton Crop in D. Is this what you got?

Thanks

RE: Pat Hare

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:33 am
by bighollowtwang
Yep, what's giving you trouble, the chords?

He uses basic 9th chord shapes throughout Cotton Crop, such as this, for the IV and V:

http://www.cyberfret.com/styles/funk/10 ... asrt_5.gif

RE: Pat Hare

PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:26 am
by boweavil blues
Thanks Zak,

I'm not very good at getting those voicings, so I can sort of play along with majors or dominant sevenths and sound slightly off by ear, so that tip about the 9ths helps alot. As far as the lead goes I guess I'm just not sure about what positions he's using.

RE: Pat Hare

PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:03 pm
by bighollowtwang
The West Memphis guys like Pat Hare and Willie Johnson were unique because they were as influenced by "uptown" players such as T-Bone Walker as they were by the more rural sounds heard in the surrounding areas. Just remember that what they were doing was often a very raunchy and distorted adaptation of T-Bone's chord choices and solo ideas. I haven't really looked but I'm sure there must be some instructional material out there that covers T-Bone's style.

Common voicing for the I chord (G for example) would be

http://www.cmeabaysection.org/guitarpag ... 0/G9-1.gif


and you can use the shape in my previous post for the IV and V chords. Move chromatically in and out of these chords, experiment with a half-step up or a half-step down, depending on the situation. You'll hear this in Pat Hare's slow blues, Cotton Crop is full of these half-step slides into chords.

As for the solos, lay into the 6th and 9th notes in the high registers (in the key of G that would be E and A, respectively) with the 6th being particularly effective in phrases over the IV chord and the 9th over the V - as with T-bone's note choices, Pat Hare is definitely "jazzier" than just playing a pentatonic minor scale. Come to think of it, I can't think of any blues player I really like that sticks exclusively to the pentatonic minor scale - which appears to be the first thing "introductory" blues courses teach: noodle away in the pentatonic minor scale....but I digress.

RE: Pat Hare

PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:01 pm
by boweavil blues
[updated:LAST EDITED ON Sep-17-05 AT 01:27 PM (EST)]Thanks, that should keep me busy for awhile. It is a very astute tip about the uptown influences, because the sound is so primitive I would never have thought to try those jazzy chords.

Zak, you are a great resource to have on this board.