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national /lace pickup

Postby slidedude » Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:53 pm

Has anyone tried this pickup and how would it be for a wood resonator?
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RE: national /lace pickup

Postby dabluz » Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:33 pm

is this the one that's flat and thin and has "sticky back" on it to stick on the face of the reso just below the end of the fretboard?[http://www.soundclick.com/pappad]
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RE: national /lace pickup

Postby slidedude » Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:56 pm

That is the one,if I can just make up my mind on what national resonator I want I can then stress out on the right pickup.Is it a good sounding pickup.
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RE: national /lace pickup

Postby grady » Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:50 pm

IMO, the old Barcus-Berry Magnetic pickups sound much better.
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RE: national /lace pickup

Postby bendaway » Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:28 pm

The cost to buy one from Elderly music (when they ever get any in stock) has increased from $150.00 to 200.00!! No Thanks.
http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/items/NLP1.htm
http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/items/NLP2.htm
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RE: national /lace pickup

Postby slidnslim » Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:39 pm

By far the best reso pu(for me anyways) is the DeArmond
foil pickups found on old Harmony and Silvertones,
skinney enough to fit under the strings and very microphonic!
A close second would be the Barcus Berry's, I haven't tried the
Lace /National but its supposed to be fashioned after the
BarcusBerry,
I mean as far as Magnetics are concerned,some people like
that piezo sound,

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RE: national /lace pickup

Postby 1four5 » Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:47 pm

I'm also getting the itch to put a pickup in my National (bendaway), and saw these, so I'm wondering as well. What the heck makes one pick up $49 and the next $200? Is it that little logo? geeze

Having just put a cheap generic squire strat pickup in my Gold Tone reso with great success, I'm very interested in putting a good mag pickup in my National, and am even willing to cut a hole for it. No hurry, but I wouldn't mind ideas to consider.
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RE: national /lace pickup

Postby bendaway » Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:30 pm

>I'm also getting the itch to put a pickup in my National
>(bendaway), and saw these, so I'm wondering as well. What
>the heck makes one pick up $49 and the next $200? Is it that
>little logo? geeze
>
>Having just put a cheap generic squire strat pickup in my
>Gold Tone reso with great success, I'm very interested in
>putting a good mag pickup in my National, and am even
>willing to cut a hole for it. No hurry, but I wouldn't mind
>ideas to consider.

Look at this GFS DeArmond style for $27.95:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Neck-Dearmo ... dZViewItem

Might not even be a need to cut any hole, except drill a small one for the wire.
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RE: national /lace pickup

Postby slidnslim » Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:19 pm

Bendaway,those should sound good, Kwill of this board has an
old 12 string Dobro like Roy Rodgers has ,not sure of the
model number,but that guitar sounds good with a simular looking
pickup as that.

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RE: national /lace pickup

Postby 1four5 » Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:03 am

Thanks for the link and ideas...my gosh...I've got red eye from googling pick-ups...I never knew there was so much out there! If cost wasn't an issue, what mag pick-up would you'all put in your favorite reso?
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RE: national /lace pickup

Postby dabluz » Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:03 pm

>That is the one,if I can just make up my mind on what
>national resonator I want I can then stress out on the right
>pickup.Is it a good sounding pickup.

not as good as it should be is my feeling. kinda thin sounding and very "electric" doesn't sound like a reso, sounds like and electric guitar.

[http://www.soundclick.com/pappad]
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RE: national /lace pickup

Postby bendaway » Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:09 pm

>not as good as it should be is my feeling. kinda thin
>sounding and very "electric" doesn't sound like a reso,
>sounds like an electric guitar.

Considering just what a magnetic pickup is and where it is mounted, common sense makes me tend to believe what you are saying without having heard or used one of these new pickups. In my opinion that isn't good enough for $200. It is amazing how a National player on another forum who owns one of these pickups raves about it and has just the opposite opinion about the sound of it. I think the big selling points with this new National/Lace PU are: it is very thin, the cord exits from the side, not the bottom, it sticks-on without drilling screw holes, AND the National logo on it.
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RE: national /lace pickup

Postby deferre » Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:32 pm

I guess that any thin enough pickup will give similar results.

I mounted myself a Schaller 10/43 pickup on my dobro. This is an acoustic guitar soundhole one. I just disasembled the structure, drilled a small hole on the side for deviating the output cable and sticked it to my Johnson 998. Later I drilled also a hole for the output jack on the side of the guitar. This pickup cost only 30 euros now ($36?), but I payed something like $15 for it years ago. I just used it because I had it already lying around. It's a bit too thick, but it's just an example.
It sound pretty good in my ears, although I blend it with a microphone too.
http://www.pix8.net/pro/pic/22875rmXJT/817994.jpg

Did you check out the Kent Armstrong pickups? I think they would also fit nicely on a dobro:
http://www.wdmusic.com/slimbucker_neck_ ... 1_prd1.htm
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