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Weissenborn - The Lakes of Pontchartrain

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:43 am
by Rene
Here is a new one. An arrangement that I made for the traditional “The Lakes of Pontchartrain” on the Weissie. An Irish blues...hope you like it...








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Re: Weissenborn - The Lakes of Pontchartrain

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:02 pm
by OldWailer
That was great. Is your tuning the standard GBDGBD?

Re: Weissenborn - The Lakes of Pontchartrain

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:22 pm
by SouthernSounds
Once again, nice job Rene! Thanks for posting your vids. This one is quite relaxing...

A hug my friend! Kindly from the South,

B.

Re: Weissenborn - The Lakes of Pontchartrain

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:51 pm
by Rene
Thanks! The tuning is D A D F# A D, low to high.

Re: Weissenborn - The Lakes of Pontchartrain

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:37 am
by bottleneck

Re: Weissenborn - The Lakes of Pontchartrain

PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:27 am
by zissou intern
Rene,
This is fantastic! Thanks for sharing.
Z.I.

Re: Weissenborn - The Lakes of Pontchartrain

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:08 am
by Griz
Hey Rene, Griz formerly of RN. :D Beautiful song masterfully done my friend.

Re: Weissenborn - The Lakes of Pontchartrain

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:20 pm
by Liquids
Nice song.

That tuning (open D) and moreso, D-A-D-D-A-D, down a half or whole step are what I've been playing the most with my recent lap-style experiments. It's a really cool instrument/style. More importantly, the music you're making there is really enjoyable.

What weissenborn is that (maker, brand, wood, etc)? How high do you (or the builder) have the action at the nut, roughly?

Re: Weissenborn - The Lakes of Pontchartrain

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:09 am
by OldWailer
I love the sound you are getting with this! I play lap almost entirely with the DADF#AD tuning--but all I seem to get is a very blues kind of sound--something on the order of "You Gotta Move," by Fred McDowell. I love the sound--but I'd also like to vary it sometimes.

If it's not too much to ask, do you, (or anybody else) know where I might go to get some instruction--tab, books, tapes or whatever--on making this same tuning sound so different--and beautiful?

I have been searching this tuning for months and I've been finding some stuff--but it's not a tuning that is stressed much in lap steel literature. I'm probably just using the wrong search parameters. . .

Re: Weissenborn - The Lakes of Pontchartrain

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:36 am
by zhyla
Absolutely georgeous. Makes me want to build a Weissenborn now... doubt I could make it sound as nice though :).

Re: Weissenborn - The Lakes of Pontchartrain

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:29 am
by Rene
Thanks to all!

Hi Griz, I didnt know you are walking around here....

The Weissenborn builder is Fern from Amsterdam
http://www.fernsguitars.nl

nut action is about 11 mm (7/16 Inch)
The wood is awesome and is Khaya (African mahogany)

Old Wailer,
I always figured out new tunes by ear and never used tab to learn the fretboard. Just begin with a simple tune like Amazing Grace and find out the chords and then the melody and try to put them together. When you are able to do this make your own variations. And ofcourse listen to all the D tuning stuff played by lap-style players.
Here are some usefull links:


http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=tro ... id/uploads

http://www.petegrant.com/8-string_sheebeg.html

http://www.myspace.com/sallyvanmeter

• Rob Anderlik's website has a collection of Weissenborn tabs with video and audio clips. Be sure to check out the rest of his website. It's full of excellent advice for learning lap steel
• The Acoustic Guitar magazine website has a very good online lesson by Kelly Joe Phelps, Getting Started with Lap-Style Slide. Example 3 is a nice arrangement of "Red River Valley".
• Homespun Tapes has two acoustic lap steel instructional videos. The Slide Guitar of Kelly Joe Phelps is a very good video by Kelly Joe Phelps. He uses the Open D tuning. Slide Guitar for Blues - Lap Style is by Bob Brozman and covers mostly blues in open Dm, D and G tunings.

Hope this helps a little...

Re: Weissenborn - The Lakes of Pontchartrain

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:00 pm
by OldWailer
Thank you, Rene, for taking the time to answer my question so thoroughly.

I guess I'm on the right track--I already have some Troy lessons--next I want to get the one on open D chords--and I have the videos by Brozman and the one by Phelps--which are both very blues oriented and very good. The Phelps lessons are very advanced, but I have been raiding them for licks and it has helped my playing a lot.

Interestingly, I actually know Pete Grant and I took lessons from him in LA many years ago. Unfortunately, I didn't stay with the lap playing and went to just playing guitar--but a lot of the stuff he taught me still sticks--I still prefer a round bar and the finger damping methods still work. I'm going to write to him and at least say hi--haven't seen him in 20 years or more.

I'm also learning from your video now--I just watch your moves and steal them--thanks for the great lesson! ;-)

Re: Weissenborn - The Lakes of Pontchartrain

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:55 pm
by A J Davies
great clip!

Re: Weissenborn - The Lakes of Pontchartrain

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:10 pm
by Mark Schrier
Hi Rene,

Beautiful song!

Is that the style 3 model you are playing?

Mark