Blues | Rock - Where's the line?

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RE: Blues | Rock - Where's the line

Postby allanlummox » Thu Sep 19, 2002 5:57 pm

And make up your mind...are these facts or opinions?

Or are those interchangeable in your world?
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RE: Blues | Rock - Where's the line

Postby bosco » Thu Sep 19, 2002 6:09 pm

>You used the word homicide, not murder...
>so theres no semantic dilemma here.

What exactly are you saying here?

The FACT is that Rap has directly caused homicides in the music industry, or murders, or whatever terminology one chooses to use.

My OPINION is that you just like to argue with people for a hobby.

The two are not interchangable...
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RE: Blues | Rock - Where's the line

Postby allanlummox » Thu Sep 19, 2002 7:30 pm

We're still on that bit... I see.

That still comes down to the idea that your ideas have value, and mine, if they disagree, do not.

Which means that discussing anything with you is a waste of time.

I can live with that.
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RE: Blues | Rock - Where's the line

Postby hoodoo hand » Thu Sep 19, 2002 7:41 pm

Yeh, there's lots of killing in Shakespeare, but I'm not afraid of Shakespearian actors. There's a word for people that keep on acting their part even off-stage. Or, maybe I should say, "there's a diagnosis". :)

The suggestion that Rap, sociologically if not musically, is the same as the Blues is rather interesting. If History repeats herself again, then we can expect Rock and Roll (which is pretty close to the Lawrence Welk stage that Big Band music reached before disappearing from the charts) to be replaced by a bunch of white kids playing Rap too loud and too fast. :)

BTW, didn't they already create a skinless, boneless chicken? I think they call it "tofu".

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RE: Blues | Rock - Where's the line

Postby bosco » Thu Sep 19, 2002 9:00 pm

If I thought your opinions did not have value or merit, I would not have responded to anything you posted. I am perplexed by your suggestion of the recurring theme that my opinions deserve an audience and have value and yours do not and are only meant to cause trouble. I just read through this entire thread and unless an inferiority complex is involved, I find no evidence to sustantiate your claim. I never said you were "wrong" or that "your opinions suck." We both tried to back up our position with what we believed to be fact. I will not echo the statement that "discussing anything with you is a waste of time", as I'm sure many folks were enlightened by this interaction. I will concede that continuing the discussion at this point is a waste of time...

On that we can finally agree.
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RE: Blues | Rock - Where's the line

Postby pikengren » Fri Sep 20, 2002 12:30 am

This topic seems to be too hot to talk about. There were some fowl attempts to lighten the mood(:))
Everyone's entitled to have an opinion based on how they were raised, and their life experiences.
In the words of one of our past presidents of the U.S.
"Define sexual intercourse"
Something is what it is no matter what name it goes by. My opinion stands firm, I don't agree with making outrageous acts seem normal.

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RE: Blues | Rock - Where's the line

Postby hashtaff » Fri Sep 20, 2002 12:56 am

Man, this thread got HOT!
Perhaps it should have been taken to the smoking room! ;)

and Sandy,
"By the way HT, it was Allan Freed, not Alan Freeman. You're betraying your British roots, Pop-picker."

You are absolutely right. Must have been a Freudian slip or flashback or something. At least Alan Freeman wasn't as irritating as that daft prick Jimmy Saville.

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they don't know where you been.
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RE: Blues | Rock - Where's the line

Postby allanlummox » Fri Sep 20, 2002 1:05 am

Well, I don't really think it's a question of society going further to pot...

It's always been thus, and mass-media makes it a little stronger.


The ancient Romans had Greek slaves & servants...hence the huge Greek influence on Roman religion & society.

Fads and fashions have been the rule at any time when opeople had the Liesure to pursue it.

Bucking the trends has always been the high road, but it does give you a little perspective on just what everyone else is doing.
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RE: Blues | Rock - Where's the line

Postby bosco » Sat Sep 21, 2002 12:50 pm

Anyone else care to comment?.....LOL.

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RE: Blues | Rock - Where's the line

Postby ricochet » Sat Sep 21, 2002 9:56 pm

'Nuff said. Listen to what you like, and don't murder anybody. :7
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RE: Blues | Rock - Where's the line

Postby allanlummox » Sun Sep 22, 2002 4:50 am

I defer to the wise man from Tennesee...

Ric, my defense of Rap music is mainly based on my recent experiences in the recording studio, laying down acoustic slide on Hip Hop tracks.

I treat people the way they treat me.
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RE: Blues | Rock - Where's the line

Postby ricochet » Sun Sep 22, 2002 10:34 pm

Often I find that if I treat people the way I'd want to be treated, they respond in kind. :)

I try to do that, anyway.
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RE: Blues | Rock - Where's the line

Postby allanlummox » Sun Sep 22, 2002 11:23 pm

Yea, that's how I was brought up, too.

You see what I mean, though.
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RE: Blues | Rock - Where's the line

Postby allanlummox » Sun Sep 22, 2002 11:26 pm

What I meant is that the Rap musicians & engineers I've dealt with...particularly recently...have been a pretty decent bunch, very driven musically, and WIDE open to new musical ideas.
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RE: Blues | Rock - Where's the line

Postby jellyroll baker » Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:15 am

Treat people how they want to be treated? Responding in kind? Man, I'm writing a THESIS on that stuff I use this forum to get it off my brain and I STILL get reminded of it at every turn.

Come to think of it, I'd better get writing. It's due at the end of October...
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