RE: Squeeze my Lemon

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RE: Squeeze my Lemon

Postby blueswriter » Sat Nov 02, 2002 5:02 pm

"She sits among the cabbages and leaks..."

Firstly, would the plural of cabbage be cabbages?
We don't say "she sits among the lettuces."
And if she were among the cabbage(s), would there be leaks nearby or leeks?

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RE: Squeeze my Lemon

Postby badfinger » Sat Nov 02, 2002 5:13 pm

"We don't say "she sits among the lettuces""

We do! (and cabbages!)

"leaks... or leeks?"

That was today's Freudian slip!

An interesting point (maybe): "peas" (as in a pod) was originally not a plural, but is diminished from "pease" (as in pease pottage, or pease pudding - and sometimes spelled "peas"...).

Oh, well, there you go...


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RE: Squeeze my Lemon

Postby blueswriter » Sat Nov 02, 2002 9:12 pm

If I ever found a need to say that, I'd opt for "she sits among the cabbage." Would you say "she sits among the corn and cabbage" or "she sits among the corns and cabbages?" We know radishes to be the accepted and correct plural of radish, so "she sits among the radishes" is okay, but again, if she were in the celery patch and there was more than one bunch of celery, you wouldn't say "she sits among the celeries." But, if we were referring to the patch and its relation to celery, you could say "she sits among the celery's patch."

Which leads me in another direction... why is the plural of goose correctly said as geese and the plural of moose doesn't change to meese? And why is the plural of mouse mice when the plural of house is houses?

All this is almost as interesting as the Robert Johnson thread at the Temple!

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RE: Squeeze my Lemon

Postby ricochet » Sat Nov 02, 2002 10:10 pm

And if the plural of mouse is mice, shouldn't the plural of spouse be spice?
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RE: Squeeze my Lemon

Postby allanlummox » Sun Nov 03, 2002 12:00 am

Well, wouldn't it be Spicey?
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RE: Squeeze my Lemon into a Gin +To

Postby houndog » Sun Nov 03, 2002 1:04 am

Hugely interesting.

Aparently the Colony to the extreme left of Britain had a parlimentary debate after their revolution as to which language they were going to have as their national language.

This raises the possibility of the Blues being sung in Russian, Italian,Chinese,French or an entirely new language...however those who were revolting chose English.

What is interesting is the continuation of BaddFing's theme of Vaudeville and the mixing of British music hall( Harry Lauder et al).There is a real continution here as Bob Hope and Bing Crosby paid there dues on the jazz and vaudeville circuits before making it big in the movies, right up to the mid eighties.

BW the plural of mouse is meece here in Scotland.The plural of moose in Canada is elk.

Elkie Brooks , is, however not a water bourne moose.

And it would usually be " She is sitting in a celery patch"...or as they have it in the Colonies " Polk Salad Annie has now left the celery patch".

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RE: Squeeze my Lemon into a Gin +To

Postby badfinger » Sun Nov 03, 2002 2:14 am

You can say what you wish, Craig – it is your priviledge, and your language.

In English, even without the scansion demands of a song, we will do likewise. :P

(Incidentally, Webster – an American dictionary - gives the plural of cabbage as cabbages... )

Moose, mouse, spouse, etc – I don’t suppose the answers are really desired, however, as they have been asked:

mouse is Old English: mūs , plural, mÿs; from Anglo Saxon mūs.

spouse is Middle English: spūs, and has no regular plural (from Old French: spous).

I would guess that moose is probably a N American Indian word - so you could ask your neighbours what the plural should be.

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RE: Squeeze my Lemon into a Gin +To

Postby ricochet » Sun Nov 03, 2002 2:46 am

Oh well, plural spouses would be much too spicy for me, anyway.
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RE: Squeeze my Lemon into a Gin +To

Postby allanlummox » Sun Nov 03, 2002 10:39 am

Far too spicey is EXACTLY why spice would be the plural of spouse...

The difference between nutrition and gluttony, Music and cacophany...

Although I do like my food spicey...

Too many wives would certainly ruin the cook.
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RE: Squeeze my Lemon into a Gin +To

Postby sandy » Mon Nov 04, 2002 6:19 pm

Meanwhile back in the cabbage patch - Lewis Carroll went for "cabbages and kings" in the Walrus and the Carpenter.
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RE: Squeeze my Lemon into a Gin +To

Postby badfinger » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:57 pm

...and he was a mathematician, so he must be right!


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RE: Squeeze my Lemon,Gin +Tonic.

Postby houndog » Tue Nov 05, 2002 9:36 pm

Or a cabbage patch, doll..

I am the Walrus ..koo koo k'tchoo..

As Gracey Airplane sang in the music halls during the last century
"one makes you bigger..the other makes you small.."

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RE: Squeeze my Lemon,Gin +Tonic.

Postby houndog » Wed Nov 06, 2002 7:55 pm

Anyway..back to the topic.

Chuck Berry should be the National Poet of the States...beat this.

" Marlo(sic) of Venus was a beautiful lass.
She had the world in the palm of her hand,
she lost both arms in a wrestling match,
to win herself a brown eyed handsome man".

Superb imagery in taking a well known icon of beauty.Loosing both arms = true devotion.And the beautiful racial reference in brown eyed handsome man...great stuff.

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RE: Squeeze my Lemon,Gin +Tonic.

Postby ricochet » Wed Nov 06, 2002 9:40 pm

Yeah, but he missed the glaring opportunity to rhyme "lass" with something like "kickin' somebody's @$$."
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RE: Squeeze my Lemon,Gin +Tonic.

Postby allanlummox » Thu Nov 07, 2002 12:40 am

Yea, I always really liked that song, too...Chuck is the king.
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