Help the 'dawg.

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Help the 'dawg.

Postby houndog » Sat Aug 27, 2005 9:55 am

Hello,
as part of my ongoing adolescent resistence to official music I have not learned to read music, I am aiming to grow up a bit now ;)

Now there was a great thread here a week or so back about
music theory page/s. But as I crashed and burned my computer I have lost everything (perpetual adolescence + Homer Simpson approach to meddling).

I know Badffing and Rico posted on it ...can anyone point it out to me?

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RE: Help the 'dawg.

Postby ricochet » Sat Aug 27, 2005 4:50 pm

Maybe in this thread? http://www.bigroadblues.com/dcforum/DCForumID14/61.html

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RE: Help the 'dawg.

Postby houndog » Sat Aug 27, 2005 7:55 pm

Yer a bonnie laddie Rico, that is the verrry fella.

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RE: Help the 'dawg.

Postby david » Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:07 am

There is a book out on music theory just for guitar. It seems pretty good, though I loaned my copy to the music professor at the college the day after I received it and haven't gotten it back yet.

My initial impression is that it was geared for folks already familiar with guitar, but with no knowledge of music theory.
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RE: Help the 'dawg.

Postby badfinger » Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:33 am

There is no substitute for being able to read "standard" notation.

To be without it is to be an illiterate in ones choisen society. Simple as that.

However, "music theory" and "reading music" are not the same thing; they are, to each other, rather like thermodynamics is to driving a car, or (better) as linguistics is to reading a book.

Millions of zillions of musicians read music as naturally as drawing breath, with but a smattering of knowledge of music theory, per se.

Get any of the top tab software packages that show tab and standard notation - GuitarPro, Tef-thing?,Powertab (FREE)... That'll be useful.

Do a Google for the thousands of pages on the web,
eg:
http://datadragon.com/education/reading/
http://www.notationmachine.com/how_to_r ... gmusic.htm
http://www.programurl.com/reading-music.htm

One little point (cos it's a personal "bee-in-the-Tam" and this is an opportunity to let it buzz!):

Books, teachers, websites... all, at some point (usually early on), talk about music written on two five-line staffs (staves) and show something like this:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/blake-robe ... taves1.gif

...and waffle on about different instruments and voices of different pitch etc.

None (so far) ever explain a very simple fact - music is more better described as being written on ONE ELEVEN line staff, which is split at middle C, cos it gets a bit eye-boggling otherwise. Comme ├ža:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/blake-robe ... taves2.gif

(let's not argue about all the other staffs that exist - for most people, there are but two...)
MMMmmmmmm... That felt good.

But, to the matter in hand. Have fun - anyone's (and everyone's) musical experience is enlarged a thousandfold by being able to pick up a sheet of music and read what it's saying.

As to "growing up"... It would be easier if you were five years old.
There is, however, the advantage that the written "language" of music needs only about a hundred "words" to constitute a really useful "vocabulary".
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RE: Help the 'dawg.

Postby houndog » Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:48 pm

Ah Baddfingg,
it appears my cunning plan has worked.

As you may remember , or otherwise, I tried to induce you into sharing your vasty musical abilities with us...and Help ma boab you just have.

Lead on and don't spare the staves...

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RE: Help the 'dawg.

Postby stumblin » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:22 am

I've tried and failed a few times over the years to learn to read music.
Now I'm going to try again. Thanks 'Dog and BF for the encouragement and help.
Good luck Mr. Dog in your music reading endeavours :)
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RE: Help the 'dawg.

Postby grady » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:43 am

I took Music Theory in College and although I can read Music fluently,,I prefer to play by ear.

I trust my ears more than someone else's ability to write what they perceive they have heard.
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RE: Help the 'dawg.

Postby david » Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:22 pm

I can "read" music, very slowly, as in figure out what note it is. But, I have no idea where that is on a guitar neck.

BF, thanks for posting the music pic. I sort of knew the relation between treble and bass staffs, but that picture made it clear for the first time. One of those, "of course," moments.

And Mr. Hound, thanks for suckering BF out of the shadows on this one. Now, everybody keep going. I'm taking notes!
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