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Tweed Champ Clone

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:49 am
by Ozzie Blues
Hi, I just tried playing Harp through this amp, ( only used with Guitar to date}
and find it is greatly lacking in Volume when Mike is plugged in? I'm having to dial
up to 9 to get any sort of decent Volume out of it :?
I use it regularly with my Tele, and has ear splitting Volume in my Loungeroom!
Can anyone help?

Re: Tweed Champ Clone

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:59 am
by Ozzie Blues
I have a Blues Driver Pedal, should I be putting that online :?:

Re: Tweed Champ Clone

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:18 pm
by Jaybird803
What kind of mic are you plugging into the amp?

Re: Tweed Champ Clone

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:50 pm
by Ozzie Blues
Hi Jaybird, Its just a Vocal Mike I've used for gigs.
a Shure 2.1 Unidirectional. Is that the problem?
If so, can you recommend a moderately priced mike that
is purpose built. Thanks.

Re: Tweed Champ Clone

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:13 pm
by angerboy
You can use that microphone, but you'll need an impedance matching transformer to convert a low impedance microphone to high impedance. Shure makes good dynamic microphones. When you get one, make sure you turn the volume down, because that'll not only increase the output of the microphone, it'll also increase the probability that you will get feedback.

You can probably ditch that pedal, too.

Re: Tweed Champ Clone

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:25 am
by Jaybird803
The mic you are using has a 150 Ohm impedence which is sort of low for a harp mic. I agree with angerboy that you may want to find a higher impedence mic. There are quite a few that can be had on ebay without spending too much until you decide whether you are going to play harp or not. The Blues driver is in my humble opinion one of the best boxes for harp around. You may find it handy for some things. Some of the first mics I used were 600 Ohm cheapos that worked pretty well. I read once that the best mic for harp may be the one you order a cheesburger through at a drive through window.

Re: Tweed Champ Clone

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:48 am
by ricochet
It'd get kind of tiresome bending down to the grill on that pylon to blow your harp, though. Hard to cup it, too.

Re: Tweed Champ Clone

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:05 am
by Jaybird803
"Somebody get me a Cheeseburger!!" Steve Miller Ha!

Re: Tweed Champ Clone

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:36 am
by Ozzie Blues
Hey Jaybird, Would a Shure SM-58 be suitable :?: I can get one for $AU 95- used.
I need another vocal mike anyway, but dont know if the 58 is High Z.

Re: Tweed Champ Clone

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:51 am
by Jaybird803
The Shure Sm58 is also a low impedence mic, not unlike the one you are using now. Good for clean harp sounds through a PA or low impedence input. You would be better to spend the kind of cash ($90) for a used Green Bullet or Blues Blaster. Both of which are made for harps and also have volume controls.

Re: Tweed Champ Clone

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:00 am
by angerboy
Plese don't take offense at this, but the Shure website can be a good friend when researching their products. You want a Hi-Z microphone. Many people will trash the current Shure 520DX, but it'll sound good with your Champ.

Re: Tweed Champ Clone

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:03 pm
by Jaybird803
I agree on the 520DX. Not a real bad sounding mic for a reasonable price. Musicians Friend has them on Sale now for $89. I might also add that there is a mic for sale called the Superlux D112C that has gotten very good reviews, and can be found on Ebay for $69 "Buy It Now". With either of these mics, if after a time you feel the sound is not right , you will have a bullet shell to put other mic elements in. Both the 520DX and the Superlux D112C have volume controls, a plus when playing amplified harp.

Re: Tweed Champ Clone

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:30 pm
by MakaInOz
OB,

Have a look at
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SK9-Little-Honke ... dZViewItem

I've been thinking about one for a while. Sort of medium Z, but made in Newcastle using an Aussie electrical socket. I'd love some to buy one and let me know how it goes.

Another option is:

http://home.alltel.net/lemurcat/ You can often find them on ebay with $1 worldwide postage. I got one on ebay without a volume pot for US$21 delivered, and it only took a week to get here. Specs reckon Ceramic element, Freq. Resp. 30-15K, Impedance 8Kohms, Sensitivity -60 dB. It is nowhere near as hot as my 520DX - closer to a vocal mike but so easy to cup and works well for cleaner sounds. It tends to be my mic of choice when playing the vocal line of tunes for the kids. It doesn't have the growl of the 520DX, but the RRP for a 520DX in Oz is $319!

Re: Tweed Champ Clone

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:55 pm
by Ozzie Blues
Jaybird, Where are these reviews on the Superlux D112C :?: I searched
Harmony Central, no go there! :?

Re: Tweed Champ Clone

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:30 am
by angerboy
You'll have to wade your way through this thread, but some info is provided on another forum.

http://thebluesbox.proboards7.com/index ... 1170282601

One of my buddies uses a Superlux harp microphone through a 60W Pignose amp. It's a pretty good sounding combo. It was plenty loud, the tone was good and it was feedback resistant. I'd consider buying one of those. They are pretty cheap in the US. Cheaper than a 520DX.