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I got a new band

PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:37 pm
by watertore
Last night I tried to do amplified harp with the one man band. I taped 2 harp racks together and duct taped a shure 57 to one and butted it up against the harp in the second rack. I duct taped the 2 racks together (I use the cheapo $8 jimmy reed kind) and wrapped the harp in rag trying to get a cupping effect. The bassiness on the 57 picked up the vocals way too much and the vocal condensor mic picked up the acoustic harp too much. the gist is didn't like the sound. Not being able to hold the mic when amped loses the cupping effect so I decided to build my own band so I could free my hands up.

This set up reminds of the band sound that I had going during the late 70's-early 80's before I totally let go of playing amped harp and went to standing off the vocal mic. It brought back memorie of those club gigs when people got down and with you. The mix reflects the sound I remember hearing onstage as we played.

I first recorded the guitar and drums on my feet, then the keys, and last the harp. I used a shure 57, stock delta frost in C, and a stock princeton reverb reissue (with eurotubes)
If I could get a real band like this going, I would give the one man band a rest for awhile. Overdubbing is time consuming and I really don't like that it isn't totally spontaneous. I did one take on each instrument. At least that made it kind of spontobeat and like it would be when I sit in with a real band. Walter


can I love you just for tonight

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going back to my younger days with the harp

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here is the song I did as a pure 1 man band

cry little baby cry
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Re: I got a new band

PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:07 am
by jbone1
it's hard to get the best of different worlds isn't it! hey Walter, check out Bobby Mercy Oliver. he's a east texas guy who plays, blows harp, and sings- all at once- through one amp. he has the best racked harp tone i have ever heard. uses a bullet mic duck taped to a rack and has a place to insert the harp. definitely worth a look!

Re: I got a new band

PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:19 pm
by watertore
yes it is jbone! the good thing I get out of doing these overdubbed sessions is a re-inspire to get back to doing the 1 man band live. The preset approach just doesn't hold my interest. I know it can make my sound a lot slicker sounding, but that angle doesn't grab me like it use to. A local band heard my music and offered to back me. That was very kind but it didn't sound like any fun. To have a group of players follow my spontaneous approach is not that easy to find and the only ones I have found that do it right are the top pro players. Having to deal with scheduling time, the almost certain volume issues, busy playing, pushing the beat, and inability to flex with fluxuating times on the songs, and a million other things that will most likely come up, makes the 1 man band sound like a dream come true. To have my own studio, my own band in me, and not having to deal with others is just to easy. If I could hand pick my band members for a tour that would be fun but other than that I am hooked on the 1 man band.

I checked out Bobby Mercy's stuff. He is doing overdubbing on his recordings as well. His playing really didn't grab me but he is old school for sure! His playing reminded me of the recent popularity of the old unknown to the world Miss guys. It is a sound one either loves or not. I contacted Paul Osher's manager and asked him to forward a message about his harp holder mic. Someone who heard my recent amped recordings is sending me a tiny homeade harp mic to try. I am looking forward to seeing what I can do with it. My enthusiasm is already wanning with the amped harp. It seems once I get inspired to do it again it doesn't last long. The distortion factor is key . I am not drawn to it for long with the harp or guitar. If a real simple solution to micing a harp and singing without the 2 tones bleeding into each other comes to me, I probably will mess with it more just for the heck of it. But I doubt I will invest any amount of time in it. Thanks for thinking of me! Walter

Re: I got a new band

PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:27 am
by jbone1
well bobby when i've seen him live it's just him straight up into a bullet through his amp, no magic boxes. he seems to have found a happy medium for both harp and vocals which is hard to do. for me one or the other usually suffers no matter if it's a ss p.a. or a bullet mic/tube amp. one has to make way for the other.

Re: I got a new band

PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:03 pm
by watertore
jbone: He sings through the bullet too? If so that wouldn't work for me. The bullet as a vocal mic doesn't compete(sonically) with a large diaphram condensor for vocals and a shure 58(gigs). I am looking for a distorted harp tone when I want it, which wouldn't be very often(probably less than 5% of the time). Overall I prefer the acoustic harp tone. I should be getting this tiny harp mic in the mail this week. I am thinking of using a paper towel roll with some towels still on it to cover the harp on the rack. If I can figure that to work, I will build something more permanent. Walter