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Big Road Blues Discussion Forums 2003-10-15T13:37:39+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/feed.php?f=9&t=963 2003-10-15T13:37:39+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=963&p=10553#p10553 <![CDATA[RE: How to set the volume on your a]]> start to howl, and control the volume at the guitar,
I just learnt this the past two years my-self, before that though
I seldom played electric,
The beauty of amping acoustics is you don't need any pedal
or master volume for that matter to overdrive the amp,
they seem to naturally distort the amp!
I'm using a Silvertone Twin Twelve, its one nice sounding amp,

:-)

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2003-10-15T11:21:16+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=963&p=10552#p10552 <![CDATA[RE: How to set the volume on your a]]>
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2003-09-27T12:36:56+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=963&p=10551#p10551 <![CDATA[RE: How to set the volume on your a]]>
Roy Buchanan was supposed to have cranked his amp up all the way, and used his volume/tone controls to produce all the remarkable tones he got from his tele

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2003-07-12T01:00:30+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=963&p=10549#p10549 <![CDATA[RE: How to set the volume on your a]]> Statistics: Posted by ricochet — Sat Jul 12, 2003 1:00 am


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2003-07-12T00:46:00+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=963&p=10550#p10550 <![CDATA[RE: How to set the volume on your a]]> >your gig. And you were in a pit, not seated slap bang
>down-centre-stage,
We weren't in a pit. We were on stage. Apparently the pit creates a wall of sound that the actors can't sing through very well. We weren't mic'd at all - two mics on the edge of stage, mostly for the singers (the principle characters had their own mics).

>with the orchestra behind you, and a
>bloody good, bastard of a conductor whipping them! I can't
>comment on the musicianship of "your" orchestra, but a
>general rule was that any one instrumentalist should always
>be able to hear everyone else (unless you happen to be
>"sitting in front of the horn section", which is not a
>preferred orchestral layout, as your experience showed).
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>Also, while the guitar "fancy bits" were happening, there
>wasn't much going on in the orchestra... And when they did
>their loud bits, I did nothing...

I was doubling various instruments at different times - accordian, piano, horns, strings even the wood winds once or twice.

Whoever wrote the guitar music didn't know anything about guitar though - one piece was notated that I should play Eb (a 1/2 step lower than concert pitch allows). I'm good, but not that good. Maybe if I'd use a strat with a whammy bar.



ramble ramble ramble
I got ramblin' on my mind.

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2003-07-11T22:38:06+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=963&p=10548#p10548 <![CDATA[RE: How to set the volume on your a]]> Statistics: Posted by straightblues — Fri Jul 11, 2003 10:38 pm


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2003-07-11T15:35:42+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=963&p=10547#p10547 <![CDATA[RE: How to set the volume on your a]]>
Not so impressive. I bet there was PA for the stage for your gig. And you were in a pit, not seated slap bang down-centre-stage, with the orchestra behind you, and a bloody good, bastard of a conductor whipping them! I can't comment on the musicianship of "your" orchestra, but a general rule was that any one instrumentalist should always be able to hear everyone else (unless you happen to be "sitting in front of the horn section", which is not a preferred orchestral layout, as your experience showed).

Also, while the guitar "fancy bits" were happening, there wasn't much going on in the orchestra... And when they did their loud bits, I did nothing...

bf

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2003-07-11T12:13:15+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=963&p=10546#p10546 <![CDATA[RE: How to set the volume on your a]]> >nylon-strung classic guitar, infront of a 20+ piece
>orchestra, and been heard, without amplification.)

That's impressive. I played guitar in a "pit" orchestra for a musical production this year. I felt my acoustic would be drowned out, so I played my Les Paul through my 10W amp. I was sitting in front of the horn section, so in order to hear myself, I tipped the amp up at my head. Because we weren't actually in the pit, but rather (rear) center stage, this didn't exactly project the guitar out to the audience. I even had a couple small solos that nobody heard - even when there were no other people playing or singing *shrug* though maybe they didn't recognize them as guitar bits.



ramble ramble ramble
I got ramblin' on my mind.

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2003-07-11T11:06:27+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=963&p=10545#p10545 <![CDATA[RE: How to set the volume on your a]]>
The originator was writing about achieving a particular sound or sounds, rather than "loudness" per se. However, "loudness" very quickly becomes a subject for debate.

My feelings stem from a musical experience playing acoustic instruments (violin and trumpet, mainly) in orchestras, bands (dance, jazz, brass, symphony...) where, generally speaking, amplification wasn't even a topic of conversation, never mind practice.
(With guitar, on a number of occasions I played a nylon-strung classic guitar, infront of a 20+ piece orchestra, and been heard, without amplification.)

Often, a conductor controlled, inter alia, your volume - and that of the other musicians. But even without a conductor, if, say, the piece being played called for a solo, the rest of the band/orchestra played more quietly, allowing the soloist to stand out. The result was music. Enjoyed by player and audience alike.

With the typical so-called "blues jams" etc. that I have visited around this neck of the woods (and it's probably the same elsewhere), all levels are set, initially for "solo performance", and a "true" solo is made to stand out by the soloist cranking his volume higher (he hopes) than the herd. Of course, the drummer (who thinks that it's all one long drum solo, anyway) rises to the occasion with his own increased output, countered by the other instrumentalists (each with his own 100 watt box*) - the result is something spiralling out of control, if any obtained in the first place.

*(100 watt box) A few weeks ago, MikeDev and I were in a (not-too-large) pub bar venue, confronted by a 'band' which had six 100 watt Fender guitar amplifiers - and the ubiquitous continuous drum solo - backing some guy silently mouthing into a microphone (well, the effect was silently mouthing), and all this was "enhanced" (save for the singer) by a P.A. system that looked like some form of electronic warfare array (and into which two extra microphones were being fed from - wait for it - the drum-kit). In the corner was a keyboard player (whom we couldn't hear) with her own amplifier on top of a stack of beer crates, so that she could rest her head against it - last week, in conversation, she told me that this was often the only way that she could hear her own instrument, no matter which band she was gigging with.

We didn't stay long. But they seemed to be having a ball - or something.

I'm not anti electric or amplified instruments, and make use of amplification and sound-enhancing systems myself, in some contexts, but I see, eg, the electric guitar primarily as something with a different range of sounds from an acoustic guitar - not necessarily a louder instrument.

And it does seem to be true that an electric guitar tends to be a very lonely, insecure animal, needing the company of others; and wherever two electric guitars are gathered together in any-one's name, more will surely flock, each with it's own amplifier... And then along comes a drummer!

bf

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2003-07-11T08:14:52+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=963&p=10544#p10544 <![CDATA[RE: How to set the volume on your a]]>
"First feel really bad. Or really good. The point is to feel" doc Mojo

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