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Big Road Blues Discussion Forums 2007-01-23T13:22:47+00:00 2007-01-23T13:22:47+00:00 <![CDATA[Why no jam sessions?]]>
oleman wrote:
I really miss our open mic nite that was held in a small bar. We had the most diverse group of musicians that I had ever seen. Barbershop quartets, Pueblo drum circles and singers, Mariachis, Pros, Amatures and everything in between, playing all types of music from jazz to country. It got to be so popular that it spilled out into the parking lot. The neighbors complained and the cops shut it down, even in the bar as they said the traffic around the bar had gotten out of hand. They were right too because all the locals in the village showed up to drink and join in the fun. Too much of a good thing.
Hey,at least you can say you were part of a great happening. Those events are in the "You really had to be there" category. Most musicians would wonder how the hell you ever made it work,with all that diversity,but it sounds like you guys caught a good wave and rode it 'til it hit the beach.

Statistics: Posted by jeffl — Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:22 pm

2007-01-23T07:55:39+00:00 <![CDATA[Why no jam sessions?]]>
maxx england wrote:
Stumblin - what's the Red Deer parking like? I don't want to turn up and get clamped/towed away.

It's on a quiet little street, there is some kerbside parking out front, and there's a municipal car park under two minute's walk away.
Let me know if you're coming, and I'll email you directions.

Statistics: Posted by stumblin — Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:55 am

2007-01-23T06:59:22+00:00 <![CDATA[Why no jam sessions?]]> Statistics: Posted by oleman — Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:59 am

2007-01-22T13:19:56+00:00 <![CDATA[Why no jam sessions?]]> Statistics: Posted by maxx england — Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:19 pm

2007-01-21T22:00:10+00:00 <![CDATA[Why no jam sessions?]]> Statistics: Posted by texas blues — Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:00 pm

2007-01-21T16:59:36+00:00 <![CDATA[Why no jam sessions?]]> Really though, the basic idea was to kind of take the music back to it's pre-electric roots, and I think we're doing that pretty well without compromising too much.
As for riff-raff, there was a little bit of minor unpleasantness a while back. The landlord barred the perps from coming back into his pub, which pretty much sorted that out.

Statistics: Posted by stumblin — Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:59 pm

2007-01-21T16:24:38+00:00 <![CDATA[Why no jam sessions?]]> * Open mics are basically designed for individuals or organized groups to "perform" for others. In the jam session I attended there were, for all intensive porposes :D , no spectators. Each of the three rooms of that small store (which appeared to mostly sell used instruments) had a circle of folks with instruments--sometimes two deep. The only "leadership" was informal and very loose. The basic jamming rule of not playing riffs between songs was pretty much adhered to, mainly out of politeness and respect for the collective thing that was happening.

It was very much a "start something everybody sort of knows and go around the circle till everyone who wants to has had a chance to take a lead" jam--no show boating. It was a great opportunity for those who wanted to advance their lead skills and for those that were just learning to make chords and play backup. There was also constant shifting around between rooms, which resulted in ever new combinations. The jam lasted from about 10 in the morning till four in the afternoon, and people evidently come and go all day long. It was a very comfortable atmosphere with the more experienced musicians stepping forward and the less experienced hanging in the background--always with the invitation to step forward when they wanted to give it a try.

The place was so full that I had a hard time making it through the front room to the door to leave. (Also, I never did figure out who among the crowd actually worked at the store! Most everyone there knew each other since this jam has been happening every Saturday for many years now.)

* Second point: By being at a music store it was open to all, but had no option of booze/drugs (lots of coffee going around, though). In a private home you would need an invitation. This was a just walk in affair. Someone asked me if I had brought an instrument and I explained that it was my first time and I was getting a feel for how good you need to be to participate. He said, "You're already there" and tried to hand me his guitar. In another room a guy tried hard to get me to take over the upright bass (these seemed to be store property, one per room). When I told him I had never played bass he told me this was a good chance to learn. I can't see that happening at an open mic in a bar.

The following week while I was waiting for my daughter to finish her guitar and fiddle lessons at a music store in Paducah I was telling the owner about the jam in Cadiz (over an hour away). He was excited about the idea. He immediately recognized that all those that attended on a regular basis were also going to buy all their strings, music, pics, straps and most everything else, from him. Talk about free advertising and building customer loyalty!

The trick would be controlling the event, which would best happen, in my opinion, by letting it start very small and grow organically by word of mouth. People who liked what was happening would come back and those that wanted to thrash-and-shred on large amps would stay away.

One of the main problems I would see with the Paducah store starting such a jam is that they cater to everything from country musicians, Chuch bands, heavy metal teenagers, to high school bands. What kind of music would be played at the jams?

* I'm also wondering if blues hasn't been too heavily influenced by rock and roll to lend itself to that kind of participatory/no spectator jam. Even rock and roll used to be a forum for all to jam together--whether you knew the songs or not. That seems to have changed into a "watch me perform" sort of thing.

The style of blues I have tended to play is the solo guitar. One of the things I've most wanted is to be able to play with others. In this part of Kentucky that pretty much excludes blues. (sigh)

Statistics: Posted by david — Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:24 pm

2007-01-20T16:21:27+00:00 <![CDATA[Why no jam sessions?]]> Statistics: Posted by jeffl — Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:21 pm

2007-01-20T16:14:26+00:00 <![CDATA[Why no jam sessions?]]> Statistics: Posted by jeffl — Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:14 pm

2007-01-20T16:09:18+00:00 <![CDATA[Why no jam sessions?]]> how the heck do you keep out the riff raff?

You would think that the higher the talent quotient went up, the lesser players would not want to get up for fear of being shown up but that usually is not the case. The very definition of "Open Mic" says it all.

To highjack the thread slightly, the same issues present themselves when you try to draw the line at blues, on top of the acoustic vs electric scenario.

Locally, they have a BLUES "jam" on Thursdays at a comedy club with a house band. Occasionally, I have fun getting up and singing and playing A COUPLE SONGS. The problem as I see it, is there is no jam etiquette followed. Some guys show up early, stake out a spot for their amp and stay on stage all night. Horn players from classic rock bands without a fundamental knowledge of blues show and just start honking over vocals and throughout other's solos. It doesn't take long before you get audio goulash and everyone's playing is compromised.

I went two weeks ago and declined to participate despite the best efforts of some to get me up there. The house band already had two guitars and one of the aforementioned guitar campers was up there. Two sax players, two other harpers and several singers were present. At times there were 8 people on stage and both of the other harpers attempted to play with saxes warbling in the background. One harper was a real talent, and both of the sax players were good, but in the end it didn't matter.

If you're going to participate in such affairs, you have to realize that it is what it is. The tighter my band gets, the harder it is for me to participate in a loosely organized jam. If you're willing to compromise your playing, then by all means get up there. Some nights I'm just not willing to to that.


Statistics: Posted by bosco — Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:09 pm