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Big Road Blues Discussion Forums 2011-02-04T04:52:08+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/feed.php?f=6&t=8778 2011-02-04T04:52:08+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8778&p=108956#p108956 <![CDATA[Re: Ragged and Dirty]]>
macfunk wrote:
TLSspider has done one for Power Tab Editor - only you have to download PTE software to display it. It is very good for free software! The tab seems a good stab at the Willie Brown version:
http://www.tabscout.com/guitartab/v6ZMwa5@/vbs/Ragged%20And%20Dirty

Does anyone know how to get hold of a recording of the Willie Brown version? I like CW Stoneking doing it, but I guess his version will be a bit different to the original.

PS I think the acousticfingerstyle.com version may be based on John Estes' earlier version of the song.


This brings up another question I have for you guys regarding sampling blues music for a hip hop project. I was wondering with some of these older recording is I should just learn the riff or the bassline that I am looking for and play it myself on a guitar or piano. Seems though like that would be even more of a copyright risk than taking a pure sample anyways. Oh well, I doubt I will be selling tens of thousands of records anyways :D

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2009-03-15T05:10:21+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8778&p=92043#p92043 <![CDATA[Re: Ragged and Dirty]]> Statistics: Posted by Sheb Whitebred — Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:10 am


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2009-02-18T18:43:55+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8778&p=90682#p90682 <![CDATA[Re: Ragged and Dirty]]> http://www.tabscout.com/guitartab/v6ZMw ... nd%20Dirty

Does anyone know how to get hold of a recording of the Willie Brown version? I like CW Stoneking doing it, but I guess his version will be a bit different to the original.

PS I think the acousticfingerstyle.com version may be based on John Estes' earlier version of the song.

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2009-02-14T08:48:01+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8778&p=90474#p90474 <![CDATA[Re: Ragged and Dirty]]>
maoster wrote:
Hey thanks Shaw - good advice

Do you always fret E string with thumb on that song?


For the G chords I always use my thumb. The first C chord (near the beginning, with the Eb on the second string), I've changed to make it easier. I alternate between the fifth string and third string with my right thumb, instead of the fifth and sixth string. So I never go to the sixth string except during the G chord.

I have been using my thumb on the sixth for C chords lately, too (been trying to play some Blind Blake songs and don't know how else you'd be able to do it - seems easier than fretting the fifth and sixth strings both at once with the third finger). So I might try that in "Ragged and Dirty", too, for that first C chord.

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2009-02-09T13:36:47+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8778&p=90065#p90065 <![CDATA[Re: Ragged and Dirty]]>
shaw wrote:
maoster wrote:Thanks KillerKarl

I actually did look at that version but can't make it sound anything like the original. The Stefan Grossman version is probably the best starting point BUT it requires one hell of a thumb stretch to keep the bass going - anyone else found that?

Cheers


Yeah, you do need to fret with your thumb. Which lots of people do all the time, of course - I think it's the fact that you have to bar the first two strings on the first fret with your index finger that takes a little time getting used to. I don't play that song very often, but use that technique (thumb on third fret for the G, bar the first two strings on C and F) for a couple of my own songs. Nice way to play some interesting things with a G chord.

I have pretty big hands, so it's not so much of a problem for me. I also double-jointed my thumb when younger, so it's pretty flexible. But if you slowly let your hand get used to it, you'll end up feeling more comfortable with it, of course.

Though it may not be quite like the original, I think Grossman's arrangement is a nice song in it's own right.



Hey thanks Shaw - good advice

Do you always fret E string with thumb on that song?

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2009-01-30T10:50:22+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8778&p=89372#p89372 <![CDATA[Re: Ragged and Dirty]]>
maoster wrote:
Thanks KillerKarl

I actually did look at that version but can't make it sound anything like the original. The Stefan Grossman version is probably the best starting point BUT it requires one hell of a thumb stretch to keep the bass going - anyone else found that?

Cheers


Yeah, you do need to fret with your thumb. Which lots of people do all the time, of course - I think it's the fact that you have to bar the first two strings on the first fret with your index finger that takes a little time getting used to. I don't play that song very often, but use that technique (thumb on third fret for the G, bar the first two strings on C and F) for a couple of my own songs. Nice way to play some interesting things with a G chord.

I have pretty big hands, so it's not so much of a problem for me. I also double-jointed my thumb when younger, so it's pretty flexible. But if you slowly let your hand get used to it, you'll end up feeling more comfortable with it, of course.

Though it may not be quite like the original, I think Grossman's arrangement is a nice song in it's own right.

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2008-11-24T12:33:49+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8778&p=85541#p85541 <![CDATA[Re: Ragged and Dirty]]>
I actually did look at that version but can't make it sound anything like the original. The Stefan Grossman version is probably the best starting point BUT it requires one hell of a thumb stretch to keep the bass going - anyone else found that?

Cheers

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2008-11-19T17:48:19+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8778&p=85256#p85256 <![CDATA[Re: Ragged and Dirty]]>
http://www.acousticfingerstyle.com/RaggedAndDirty.pdf

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2008-11-12T11:18:00+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8778&p=84861#p84861 <![CDATA[Re: Ragged and Dirty]]>
boogiechillun85 wrote:
It's been awhile, but as I recall Stephan Grossman's tab points you in the right direction, which is rare for him. Capo at the 7th fret and play out of a G chord.


Yeah - was being a bit unfair on Mr Grossman as it is a good starting point but pretty basic (and doesn't say to capo at 7!).

Thanks both you guys for the advice - was playing around with this last night and starting to sound vaguely in right ball park. I guess there's no subsitute to trying to work these things out by ear.

cheers

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