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Big Road Blues Discussion Forums 2008-08-08T04:54:49+00:00 2008-08-08T04:54:49+00:00 <![CDATA[Re: Bottleneck vs. “slide”]]>
lpdeluxe wrote:
Man, I go away for a month and look what happens! <snip> Now, once you all get cleaned up, it's time for your nap. Laurie, honey, you've been working too hard.

Hugh? You wake us up at midnight just to tell us to go to bed? :x :wink:

Statistics: Posted by tobiepsg — Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:54 am

2008-08-07T07:45:29+00:00 <![CDATA[Re: Bottleneck vs. “slide”]]>
Here's how it is: you can play "bottleneck" (I use the term as a courtesy, even though I personally have never been guilty of using an actual bottleneck) or "slide" (but isn't the preferable, clearer, term, "steel?") and produce loud obnoxious noise with either technique. Or you can, perhaps, again using either technique, play exquisite ethereal music. It's up to you.

Me, I play "bottleneck" on an acoustic guitar, a Les Paul Deluxe, and, more recently (since I just acquired it) an Epiphone Sheraton II that I put Seymour Duncan pickups in. At church I play a wood-body Dobro from 1984 and a lovely old Regal from the '30s, both with a bullet-nose steel. Before old age and infirmity crept up on me, I played a pedal steel with the same implement. My tools of choice on "bottleneck" are a variety of steel and brass tubes that fit my skinny fingers, the choice of which depends on whether I'm playing my acoustic or one of the electrics.

With any of these devices, the sounds I produce depend not on whether my instrument is laying in my lap or resting on my thigh, but on my own abilities, taste and choice of material.

As always and ever, it's the Indian, not the arrow.

Now, once you all get cleaned up, it's time for your nap. Laurie, honey, you've been working too hard.

Statistics: Posted by lpdeluxe — Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:45 am

2008-08-04T16:11:24+00:00 <![CDATA[Re: Bottleneck vs. “slide”]]>
tobiepsg wrote:
Just to strengthen my point above - try this without any of the the techniques discussed: object

I am not a fan of that particular style of music but great chops and killer technique transcend genre. That is some mighty fine playing.

Statistics: Posted by Nicodemus — Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:11 pm

2008-07-30T10:18:35+00:00 <![CDATA[Re: Bottleneck vs. “slide”]]>
allanlummox wrote:
"Steel" guitar generally refers to a guitar played strings skyward with a steel - our "monolithic" steel bar

Just to put the cat among the pigeons. Pure mischievousness :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


Statistics: Posted by grumpygroo — Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:18 am

2008-07-30T07:23:30+00:00 <![CDATA[Re: Bottleneck vs. “slide”]]> Statistics: Posted by guitarslim101 — Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:23 am

2008-07-30T06:45:42+00:00 <![CDATA[Re: Bottleneck vs. “slide”]]>

Statistics: Posted by tobiepsg — Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:45 am

2008-07-24T07:46:19+00:00 <![CDATA[Re: Bottleneck vs. “slide”]]> allanlummox. I guess in general "Steel" playing is meant to be playing with a (mostly) steel bar on Steel guitars. Steel guitars refer to instruments on which traditional finger style and "bottleneck" style playing is impossible or at least very awkward - unless you want to make a fool of yourself. Example: pedal steel guitars, resonator guitars, weissenborns, lapsteel guitars. In general these "steel guitars" prevent the strings from touching any frets and therefore they sometimes do not have raised frets at all - and the nut lifts the strings to 1cm+ from the neck.

Statistics: Posted by tobiepsg — Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:46 am

2008-07-22T16:21:22+00:00 <![CDATA[Re: Bottleneck vs. “slide”]]>
"Slide" is the more general category - using something, a pocket knife, piece of railroad steel, a piece of glass - to slide on the guitar neck. I have a box of slides - it contains both bottlenecks and steels.

Beyond that, there are subcategories - "Steel" guitar generally refers to a guitar played strings skyward with a steel - our "monolithic" steel bar. It could be made of any material - a shotglass makes a nice steel in a pinch.

"Bottleneck" is a general catchall term for tubefingered playing - usually with the fretboard of the guitar more or less perpendicular to the ground - all of which can be said to derive from musical roots in the Delta and can be expected to be called "bottleneck" regardless of the material that the slide is made from.

Both are slide guitar styles.

Since these terms are used within a living artistic tradition with a populist, "do it yourself" culture - one that is not even terribly old - these definitions are always open to individual interpretation and change in general usage.

Statistics: Posted by allanlummox — Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:21 pm

2008-07-22T05:16:52+00:00 <![CDATA[Re: Bottleneck vs. “slide”]]> "His guitar was usually tuned to Open G, like such: (D2 G2 D3D3 G3 B3B3 D4D4), with a capo placed on the second fret to set the tuning to the key of A. During the Twenties and Thirties, Big Joe had gradually added these extra strings in order to keep other guitar players from being able to play his guitar."

Thanx, that was going to bother me until 0800 tomorrow!

Statistics: Posted by roadkill46 — Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:16 am

2008-07-22T04:27:20+00:00 <![CDATA[Re: Bottleneck vs. “slide”]]> Statistics: Posted by jellyroll baker — Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:27 am