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Big Road Blues Discussion Forums 2006-05-10T21:12:06+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/feed.php?f=3&t=1946 2006-05-10T21:12:06+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1946&p=20108#p20108 <![CDATA[RE: best cone for a Johnson single resonator]]>
"A cheerful heart is good medicine."

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2006-05-10T21:06:39+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1946&p=20107#p20107 <![CDATA[RE: best cone for a Johnson single resonator]]> >
>And you have to be careful on those Johnson cones. Don't
>assume that just because the cone has spirals it's a
>Continental or a National cone. My Johnson Tricone that I
>bought used back in 2002 had spiral cones. They sure weren't
>National cones, and this was certainly before they started
>putting Continental cones in those things.

This is true. The difference is more than just the embossed spirels, which is done to strenghten the cone. The different makers use different aluminum alloys, and wall thickness's, which produce different resonance. I read of someone who weighed same sized cones from both National and Quarterman, and the difference was pronounced, the Quarterman being something like 50% heavier. I think I remember reading that Quarterman's aluminum comes from aerospace suppliers to the aircraft industries around L.A., don't know about Nationals. I can't even begin to guess what the Asian's use, maybe melted down beverage cans.

CrowDuck

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2006-05-10T20:44:14+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1946&p=20106#p20106 <![CDATA[RE: best cone for a Johnson single resonator]]>
And you have to be careful on those Johnson cones. Don't assume that just because the cone has spirals it's a Continental or a National cone. My Johnson Tricone that I bought used back in 2002 had spiral cones. They sure weren't National cones, and this was certainly before they started putting Continental cones in those things.

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2006-05-10T20:33:58+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1946&p=20105#p20105 <![CDATA[RE: best cone for a Johnson single resonator]]> >designs. They sound like tinny flattops to me.
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>"A cheerful heart is good medicine."

Yeah, some of the 'tone ring/soundpost' builders actually add baffles inside the box to manage the sound. Those soundwaves bounce around in some complex ways, and controlling them is both art & science.

CrowDuck

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2006-05-10T17:02:12+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1946&p=20104#p20104 <![CDATA[RE: best cone for a Johnson single resonator]]>
"A cheerful heart is good medicine."

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2006-05-10T11:25:17+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1946&p=20103#p20103 <![CDATA[RE: best cone for a Johnson single resonator]]>
My Johnson Delta squareneck and my Gold Tone both have a basic soundwell with 9 circular holes only the 12:00 hole is ovular and roughly the size of 3 of the smaller holes to open up the instrument more. Beard is one of the first (might be the first) to do this which forced companies like Johnson and Regal to follow suit and up their quality control. Good for us cheapo-depot shoppers!

There are a few guys on reso-nation that have actually converted their cheaper resos into an open-chambered (non-soundwell) design, but this takes a lot of time and if done improperly the guitar could eventually implode from the tension.

I took a dremel and simply enlarged all of the holes on my sound-well about 3/4"-1" inch and noticed definite improvements in the volume and sustain of the instrument. Removing the soundscreen from the trim-rings also helped.

Both of these mods are simple without any risk to your instrument. (if you are careful). Hardening the neck join and pulling out the soundwell are not as easy with a lot of risk.

As far as the cone goes, I have a Beard cone coming in and will compare that to the Continental shortly. My Gold Tone has a Beard cone, but I wanted to do a comparison of both cones in the same guitar.

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2006-05-10T01:30:44+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1946&p=20102#p20102 <![CDATA[RE: best cone for a Johnson single resonator]]>
CrowDuck

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2006-05-10T01:29:56+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1946&p=20101#p20101 <![CDATA[RE: best cone for a Johnson single resonator]]>
Na, I'd just as soon get it all put back together so I can play the damn thing. I'm just carefully considering all of the possible options while it's torn down.

Statistics: Posted by songdog — Wed May 10, 2006 1:29 am


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2006-05-10T01:19:12+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1946&p=20100#p20100 <![CDATA[RE: best cone for a Johnson single resonator]]> Ive done cone changes on a few Johnson biscuits and the sticks
looked fine to me, I would first try some new maple supports,
they don't have to be round you could cut some 3/4" strips on the
table saw like I do, leave the bottom square and cut the end that
rest up under the stick at a 2* angle on a mitre saw and they
usually fit snug,I usually brad-nail them through the stick
but you could just put a dab of glue if there snugged good
they won't move,
I use steam to release the dots,and always count on replacing them!

Kenny,

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2006-05-10T01:05:54+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1946&p=20099#p20099 <![CDATA[RE: best cone for a Johnson single resonator]]>
I currently have my Johnson apart and I can now feel the wood block underneath the fret board that the screws go into.

Is there an easy/trick way to remove the dot inlays? Do you use heat to soften the glue?

I'm just kind of wondering if maybe laminating some strips of denser wood (or maybe even metal/brass plate) on each side of the existing stick might serve the same purpose as replacing it entirely... just a thought.

I'll definitely be replacing my mushrooms as they were very poorly constructed.

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