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Big Road Blues Discussion Forums 2012-09-09T23:18:37+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/feed.php?f=3&t=12953 2012-09-09T23:18:37+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12953&p=114186#p114186 <![CDATA[Re: Resonator Biscuit Moved?]]>
The Breeze wrote:
Make sure that the strings are seated properly.


I checked and the strings seem to be seated properly. I did a little experimentation: I slid the biscuit from the low E string straight across toward the high E string and left just enough space between biscuit and high e string (side) cone cover hole edge (0.027-inch), it helped. Now I can use the low e string finger fretted or with a slide. After reading all the helpful replys I received, I believe that all seems well now. This is my first resonator guitar encounter and I have much to learn. I appreciate all who replied to my post. Again, Thanks.

Statistics: Posted by Jonpaul — Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:18 pm


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2012-09-05T19:52:36+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12953&p=114150#p114150 <![CDATA[Re: Resonator Biscuit Moved?]]>
Jonpaul wrote:
I've checked the intonation of the high e-string (1st string) at the 12th fret. The 12th fret plucked harmonic is right-on, but the 12th fret-finger fretted shows that the string is sharp by at leaast one-bar on my snark tuner (most of the time), ocassionaly the snark will show that the fretted note is true.


Don't be too picky. The strings will never hold a constant pitch, use 13's or above as their sound is less thin so the overtones will compensate.

The Breeze wrote:
Not really a problem as the intonation will never be perfect anyway. (edit) It is a compromise, so don't worry unduly.


Just play with attitude and it will sound amazing!!!

Statistics: Posted by The Breeze — Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:52 pm


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2012-09-04T19:26:19+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12953&p=114148#p114148 <![CDATA[Re: Resonator Biscuit Moved?]]>
Jonpaul wrote:
I've checked the intonation of the high e-string (1st string) at the 12th fret. The 12th fret plucked harmonic is right-on, but the 12th fret-finger fretted shows that the string is sharp by at leaast one-bar on my snark tuner (most of the time), ocassionaly the snark will show that the fretted note is true.

Another concern: My 6th string is sounding ok when plucked open. But when I finger fret the 6th string or use a slide (even at the second fret), the string sounds muffeled /dull. What do you think? - - Jonpaul


JP, that is exactly what I said in my earlier post - these critters, by their very nature have no compensation and will play sharp when fretted. That is compounded by the fact that we tend to run slightly higher action - that stretches the strings even more. So, sorry to say, you'll have to live with it or do some very radical reworking of your biscuit to move the break point.

Second question is hard to answer. Does is sound bad fretted at each fret or just a couple? As others have asked, is the string correctly seated at the nut and the cone? Any problems with the 5th or 4th string? Same guage string that you've always used?

Statistics: Posted by Freeman — Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:26 pm


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2012-09-03T09:42:52+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12953&p=114126#p114126 <![CDATA[Re: Resonator Biscuit Moved?]]>
The Breeze wrote:
Make sure that the strings are seated properly.
Yes, Breeze is quite correct. Most likely your string is not engaged in the little slot cut for it in the saddle. It happened to me and I also found a splinter left hanging from one edge of the tiny saw cut which interferred with the clean play of the string . If you have her with the coverplate off, it's a good idea to check those and trim off any splintered grain with a razor sharp craft knife. :D Peace.

Statistics: Posted by ricbleu — Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:42 am


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2012-09-03T08:55:47+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12953&p=114125#p114125 <![CDATA[Re: Resonator Biscuit Moved?]]> Statistics: Posted by The Breeze — Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:55 am


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2012-09-02T22:37:25+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12953&p=114124#p114124 <![CDATA[Re: Resonator Biscuit Moved?]]>
Another concern: My 6th string is sounding ok when plucked open. But when I finger fret the 6th string or use a slide (even at the second fret), the string sounds muffeled /dull. What do you think? - - Jonpaul

Statistics: Posted by Jonpaul — Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:37 pm


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2012-08-30T11:05:29+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12953&p=114095#p114095 <![CDATA[Re: Resonator Biscuit Moved?]]> Statistics: Posted by The Breeze — Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:05 am


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2012-08-29T23:01:56+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12953&p=114092#p114092 <![CDATA[Re: Resonator Biscuit Moved?]]> Statistics: Posted by Jonpaul — Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:01 pm


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2012-08-29T19:34:09+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12953&p=114087#p114087 <![CDATA[Re: Resonator Biscuit Moved?]]> Most of the biscuit bridge resos that I have worked on have the saddle at exactly 2X the distance to the 12th fret - ie they have no compensation. The saddle is perpendicular to the centerline - you want this for slide play but it will be sharp for fretted. Most cones fit pretty tightly in the soundwell and you can not move them farther away from the nut (which is what you would want to do to compensate for fretted play). Don't try turning the cone (like an acoustic) because that would shorten the distance on one side making it even sharper.

The best thing, unless you know yours was tweaked otherwise, is to put the biscuit perpendicular (and maybe during a setup, to move the break angle as far back on the saddle as you can). Once you get it where you like it, just remember to not take all the string off at once (helps to make a mark on the cone and cone well with a Sharpie)

fwiw, when I built my tricone I made the well a little oversized and very slightly moved the saddle towards the tailpiece. I then made some little spacers that holds the cones in that location. It seems to be an acceptable compromise.

Statistics: Posted by Freeman — Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:34 pm


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2012-08-29T09:12:12+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12953&p=114086#p114086 <![CDATA[Re: Resonator Biscuit Moved?]]> Peace.

Statistics: Posted by ricbleu — Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:12 am


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