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Big Road Blues Discussion Forums 2007-11-25T23:05:48+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/feed.php?f=25&t=6313 2007-11-25T23:05:48+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6313&p=66385#p66385 <![CDATA[Can we share albums?]]>
raiph wrote:
Tell you what: the nitty gritty doesn't actually matter in this case


I'm not sure what I said to make you think I felt anything different than you in regards to the running of this site.


On the side, I wonder if Demonoid felt safer in Canada, and now wished they'd been in the USA (server-wise, that is).


I doubt things would have been any better with an American hosting company. Kowtowing before legal threats is pretty standard practice for ISPs most places, unless they're sure of their standing. I recall hearing about the site when it was shut down, but otherwise am not familiar with the case at all: I'm not into the filesharing "scene" at all.

Statistics: Posted by rustyslide — Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:05 pm


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2007-11-25T21:37:47+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6313&p=66379#p66379 <![CDATA[Can we share albums?]]> Statistics: Posted by allanlummox — Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:37 pm


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srvlives wrote:
Wow!.... where'd all the 'site admin' guys come from? :roll:

The main one comes from Canada. :D

Statistics: Posted by ricochet — Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:48 pm


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2007-11-25T15:46:00+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6313&p=66362#p66362 <![CDATA[Can we share albums?]]>
- generally speaking, and in the eyes of the law in most places, to steal someone else's property is at least immoral, and in many countries, illegal;

- to host, or to carry links or pointers to sites that host, ripped off material is aiding and abetting the theft of that material and can be likened to "handling stolen goods";

- there are many means by which people can indulge themselves in theft, and sharing stolen property, by torrent or by P2P networks, without sullying the good name of BRB.

On the side, I wonder if Demonoid felt safer in Canada, and now wished they'd been in the USA (server-wise, that is).

Statistics: Posted by raiph — Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:46 pm


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2007-11-25T14:06:01+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6313&p=66358#p66358 <![CDATA[Can we share albums?]]>
raiph wrote:
In Canada, there is a concept of "fair dealing", <...> mainly concerned with academic use of material for, eg, citation.


I just looked it up and it's not called "fair use" in the laws here, but everyone calls it that*, and there is something called "fair dealing", but that wasn't what I was talking about, merely that we are allowed to make private copies of media that comes into our hands. It is widely believed here that our copyright laws are more permissive than the laws of the US, and that the recording industry is trying very hard to have Canadian copyright law tightened up to the levels of the US and the DCMA.

*presumably out of proximity to the US.


But as far as the people using this board are concerned, it is simple: copy someone else's material, in any form, without permission, and you are stealing it. What's difficult about that?


It's not, particularly. I could've been less ambiguous in my first post (#3), but I thought it was obvious that people shouldn't post material here for which they have no sanction (despite Streetslim's question). I was commenting on the posting of links to such, and despite the dead-simplicity of copyright everywhere, there are different laws in different countries with regard to that (e.g. Sweden).

Statistics: Posted by rustyslide — Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:06 pm


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2007-11-25T13:14:11+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6313&p=66355#p66355 <![CDATA[Can we share albums?]]> It is complex, but mainly concerned with academic use of material for, eg, citation.

"A thought to make one laugh till one gets mildly ill."
A typically unhelpful and meaningless comment.

Repeat: "Copyright law is actually dead simple", no matter the country; it can become complicated in its application (finding the true owner, for example, to obtain copying rights) or if contention of "right" arises.
But as far as the people using this board are concerned, it is simple: copy someone else's material, in any form, without permission, and you are stealing it. What's difficult about that?

Statistics: Posted by raiph — Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:14 pm


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Statistics: Posted by srvlives — Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:03 pm


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2007-11-23T21:45:25+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6313&p=66303#p66303 <![CDATA[Can we share albums?]]> Statistics: Posted by jeffl — Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:45 pm


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2007-11-23T21:40:08+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6313&p=66301#p66301 <![CDATA[Can we share albums?]]>
A thought to make one laugh till one gets mildly ill.

Statistics: Posted by allanlummox — Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:40 pm


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2007-11-23T20:44:18+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6313&p=66298#p66298 <![CDATA[Can we share albums?]]>
We have something in Canada called fair use.

For instance, it is not illegal for me to make a copy of a CD a friend loans me (physically, not electronically), for example, but if I make a copy of my disk and give the copy away, that is illegal.

There is a levy on all blank media that goes into a pool that is somehow distributed to IP holders (artists/labels).


In Sweden, it is not illegal to point to pirated materials, which is why an infamous bittorrent tracker is run there - in order to maintain the status quo in Swedish copyright law (in light of intense lobbying), the maintainers founded the Pirate Party.


The server is in the US, and therefore all American laws apply to content we distribute. In addition every user is governed by whatever laws in their nation might try and censor their activities.

Statistics: Posted by rustyslide — Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:44 pm


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