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Big Road Blues Discussion Forums 2009-04-06T03:19:28+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/feed.php?f=13&t=9654 2009-04-06T03:19:28+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9654&p=93265#p93265 <![CDATA[Re: Ordered for my first harp!]]>
bottleneck wrote:
good luck with it!

http://www.myspace.com/shakeylyman

Thanks! Actually, I get the harp(s) sometime in June (someone carrying them for me). So, a long wait to get started...

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2009-04-05T06:21:12+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9654&p=93239#p93239 <![CDATA[Re: Ordered for my first harp!]]>
www.myspace.com/shakeylyman

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2009-04-05T02:11:46+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9654&p=93236#p93236 <![CDATA[Re: Ordered for my first harp!]]>
jbone1 wrote:
many would say the big river is a leaky and difficult harp. i however have used them on and off for several years and find them to be a good harp. always, when you get a new harp, pull the cover plates off and make sure the screws holding the reed plates to the comb are snug! not killer tight as this will warp the plate and actually promote leaks, but snug so the plate is stuck to the comb.

the big river does have interchangeable reed plates, the ms series. but! a set of plates may cost you nearly what a fresh harp does, it's a choice you have to make. the replacement plates i have gotten have been thicker than the stock plates by a bit and have stood up well to many gigs.

the big river can fool people because it's slightly larger than say a sp20 ot marine band, and takes a bit more focused air to play. but the reason i began using them was, i was killing reeds on the afore mentioned harps at an alarming rate for a time, and i had no choice but a big river at a music store one day since i had a gig that night and no working harp in A. i found the big river to be different but by no means bad to play. it will stand up pretty well to a beginner's hard use. but once a reed has been overstressed, it's a goner and must be replaced. or the plate replaced. or the harp.

you are a beginner you say? let me tell you up front the primary danger to a harp from an uninitiated player- too much air! this causes more baffled and dissatisfied players early on than anything else imho. i know it was true for me, and until i got the idea of focused air rather than wind tunnel volume of air, i was buying new harps frequently. sometimes a sp20 would last only one or two nights. my quest to find a harp i couldn't ruin came to nothing. my ignorance cost me plenty over several years! a turning point came when i began to practice some breathing exercises and found my depth in my body cavity. it also came about as i learned more about holding the harp in my mouth- as deep as comfortable- and bringing the air from deep inside. like an air column. i have heard it said that learning to play softly- like there's a baby alseep in the next room- is a good way to go. later, once one learns how the harp actually works, maybe more focused air can be used for a bit more volume. but always the hazard is, too much air will cause tiny stress cracks in a reed and it will never be retuned successfully.

with all the great sites and forums online these days, you can find a wealth of information and support to get you started and take you very far indeed. here's the short list:
harmonicaspace.com
dirty south blues harp forum
bushman harmonica forum
harmopoint workshop

youtube has free lessons also. from beginner on up.

so when you get your harps, treat them like the instrument they are and you'll get good life from them, and probably before long you'll be looking at different keys and types. it may be inevitable, you may wreck a reed or two, but take it to heart, identify how that happened, and find a better way to play so you will both make progress and have long harp life.

ggod luck and hope you will let us know how it's going!!


Thanks a lot for this extensive information! I will surely keep posting about my progress or lack of it!

Statistics: Posted by abhinav — Sun Apr 05, 2009 2:11 am


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2009-04-04T18:33:18+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9654&p=93230#p93230 <![CDATA[Re: Ordered for my first harp!]]>
the big river does have interchangeable reed plates, the ms series. but! a set of plates may cost you nearly what a fresh harp does, it's a choice you have to make. the replacement plates i have gotten have been thicker than the stock plates by a bit and have stood up well to many gigs.

the big river can fool people because it's slightly larger than say a sp20 ot marine band, and takes a bit more focused air to play. but the reason i began using them was, i was killing reeds on the afore mentioned harps at an alarming rate for a time, and i had no choice but a big river at a music store one day since i had a gig that night and no working harp in A. i found the big river to be different but by no means bad to play. it will stand up pretty well to a beginner's hard use. but once a reed has been overstressed, it's a goner and must be replaced. or the plate replaced. or the harp.

you are a beginner you say? let me tell you up front the primary danger to a harp from an uninitiated player- too much air! this causes more baffled and dissatisfied players early on than anything else imho. i know it was true for me, and until i got the idea of focused air rather than wind tunnel volume of air, i was buying new harps frequently. sometimes a sp20 would last only one or two nights. my quest to find a harp i couldn't ruin came to nothing. my ignorance cost me plenty over several years! a turning point came when i began to practice some breathing exercises and found my depth in my body cavity. it also came about as i learned more about holding the harp in my mouth- as deep as comfortable- and bringing the air from deep inside. like an air column. i have heard it said that learning to play softly- like there's a baby alseep in the next room- is a good way to go. later, once one learns how the harp actually works, maybe more focused air can be used for a bit more volume. but always the hazard is, too much air will cause tiny stress cracks in a reed and it will never be retuned successfully.

with all the great sites and forums online these days, you can find a wealth of information and support to get you started and take you very far indeed. here's the short list:
harmonicaspace.com
dirty south blues harp forum
bushman harmonica forum
harmopoint workshop

youtube has free lessons also. from beginner on up.

so when you get your harps, treat them like the instrument they are and you'll get good life from them, and probably before long you'll be looking at different keys and types. it may be inevitable, you may wreck a reed or two, but take it to heart, identify how that happened, and find a better way to play so you will both make progress and have long harp life.

ggod luck and hope you will let us know how it's going!!

Statistics: Posted by jbone1 — Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:33 pm


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2009-03-31T15:57:53+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9654&p=93039#p93039 <![CDATA[Re: Ordered for my first harp!]]> in C (I am paranoid about one conking out!)

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2009-03-31T07:46:22+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9654&p=93028#p93028 <![CDATA[Re: Ordered for my first harp!]]>
Instead of buying another C (a bit of a waste!), why not buy an F and try your hand at playing it in 2nd position (thus still playing in C)? Then you've got another key (F) to play 1st position in if needed...

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2009-03-31T02:02:41+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9654&p=93018#p93018 <![CDATA[Re: Ordered for my first harp!]]> Statistics: Posted by DeFord Harp Slider — Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:02 am


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2009-03-31T01:29:51+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9654&p=93017#p93017 <![CDATA[Re: Ordered for my first harp!]]>
DeFord Harp Slider wrote:
I haven't purchased a Special Twenty in over twenty years and the ones that I can still play do not have replacement reeds made for them.... I am pretty sure that the newer ones do. All of the 10 hole harps by Hohner from "The Big River Harp" on up the price scale have MS stamped on the cover and there are replaceable reeds available.... I changed some in a BRH 2 hours ago.


You're probably right. However, I checked the price of the replacement reed plate, and it is more than
that of the Special 20 harp! :wha:

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2009-03-30T20:47:32+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9654&p=93002#p93002 <![CDATA[Re: Ordered for my first harp!]]> Statistics: Posted by DeFord Harp Slider — Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:47 pm


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2009-03-30T14:12:08+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9654&p=92970#p92970 <![CDATA[Re: Ordered for my first harp!]]> ordering from India, so if the harp conks out, there will be a problem if a replacement is not immediately available.

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