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Big Road Blues Discussion Forums 2011-08-21T15:05:29+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/feed.php?f=13&t=12263 2011-08-21T15:05:29+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12263&p=111479#p111479 <![CDATA[Re: Getting too full on draw notes]]> Hey, just think how yer singin' and playin' will be after your lungs are totally healed up.

Statistics: Posted by jeffl — Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:05 pm


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2011-08-21T05:08:28+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12263&p=111475#p111475 <![CDATA[Re: Getting too full on draw notes]]> i only mention that to say this: x rays showed no lung issues 12 weeks ago. i credit at least some of this to playing harp for a lot of that time.

Statistics: Posted by jbone1 — Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:08 am


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2011-08-20T13:58:26+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12263&p=111471#p111471 <![CDATA[Re: Getting too full on draw notes]]>
I will say that continual harp playing definitely expands your lung capacity, if you have those good breathing habits. I laid off playing out for at least 10 years when I was raising young kids and building my day job career, but when I got back to playing out weekly (about 20 years ago--mostly jamming ) my overall cardiovascular conditioning did a 180degree improvement.

As an aside, it is funny how you can be trying to learn a tune where the breathing part is as difficult as the actual notes. If the exhales on the recordings aren't audible, it can be a challenge to figure out when to breathe.. especially on fast passages.

Statistics: Posted by jeffl — Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:58 pm


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2011-08-20T12:08:39+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12263&p=111469#p111469 <![CDATA[Re: Getting too full on draw notes]]> i exhale through my nose at every opportunity as i'm playing. this means i'd better not have a head cold!
wet harp, this may be due to you just salivating a lot, or it may be that you're holding your head down when playing, and the saliva is ending up in covers and reed plates. it will make for difficulties. try keeping your head up straight and tilting the harp down a bit instead, if you are not already doing this. another factor may be what and how much you're drinking before and as you play. cut back a bit. i usually have a water close by but i only just wet my lips as i'm playing.

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2011-08-19T17:23:16+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12263&p=111458#p111458 <![CDATA[Re: Getting too full on draw notes]]>
jeffl wrote:
You don't say how long you've been playing harp, but the saliva and "running out of air" issues are problems common to novices ( no offense meant ). Both of those issues are often attributable to playing with too much force, and running out of air may be exacerbated by just poor lung capacity.
If you are a relative novice, the good news is that both of these issues tend to just disappear with experience, depending on how much you play. After you have developed a good set of lungs, there are some techniques for getting air on long draws-- they're often rapid exhales manifested by grunts, moans, puffs, whoops, etc.. and back to the draw or the next phrase.
The squeal problem may be coming from too much saliva in a reed slot; I'd try knockin' my harps out on a towel, or on my bluejeans, or whatever. The saliva issue will definitely slow you down.

Alotta guys will say not to practice amplified, 'cuz it can produce short cuts in your playing, but there's also the school that says that if you practice amplified at louder volumes occasionally, it'll force you to play with a lighter touch and you won't play with too much force. Playing with too much force is potentially the biggest sin of novices.



Thanks Jeff, I will try a grunt or two when my lungs are filled up. I am a harp novice, however my lung capacity is great, its just that I'm practicing a song that is practically all draw for several measures, and so I'm not finding a place to exhale. When I watch the better players they never seem to get full.

Statistics: Posted by zstevensclay — Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:23 pm


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2011-08-19T13:24:42+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12263&p=111457#p111457 <![CDATA[Re: Getting too full on draw notes]]> If you are a relative novice, the good news is that both of these issues tend to just disappear with experience, depending on how much you play. After you have developed a good set of lungs, there are some techniques for getting air on long draws-- they're often rapid exhales manifested by grunts, moans, puffs, whoops, etc.. and back to the draw or the next phrase.
The squeal problem may be coming from too much saliva in a reed slot; I'd try knockin' my harps out on a towel, or on my bluejeans, or whatever. The saliva issue will definitely slow you down.

Alotta guys will say not to practice amplified, 'cuz it can produce short cuts in your playing, but there's also the school that says that if you practice amplified at louder volumes occasionally, it'll force you to play with a lighter touch and you won't play with too much force. Playing with too much force is potentially the biggest sin of novices.

Statistics: Posted by jeffl — Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:24 pm


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2011-08-18T23:02:30+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12263&p=111452#p111452 <![CDATA[Getting too full on draw notes]]>
I also notice when I play the 3 draw I get a high pitched squeal in the background, could that be a bad reed, or a block of some sort?

How is it that really good harp players, never seem to get any saliva in their combs? I find that not every song, but too frequently, saliva pooling in my comb, and I'm using a pucker embouchure.

Thanks in advance

Statistics: Posted by zstevensclay — Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:02 pm


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