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Big Road Blues Discussion Forums 2010-11-10T18:45:05+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/feed.php?f=13&t=11302 2010-11-10T18:45:05+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11302&p=107711#p107711 <![CDATA[Re: Amp and mic for a newbie harp player?]]>
OldWailer wrote:
I personally don't believe a beginner should even consider amping up for practice. The first thing the beginner needs is to learn to get a good acoustic sound.

Cupping a mic and using the rig is a whole nuther thang--but none of it will amount to anything without that good acoustic base.

Just another opinion. . . :shock:

In theory, I agree with you Wailer, but my opinion is colored by the fact that I learned to play the "acoustic" way simply 'cuz it didn't dawn on me to buy a mic & amp. We were playing country blues and when we amplified, I just played off a 58 that I also sang through.

It could be said that if you develop too many hard habits regarding use of the hands when playing acoustically then you have more adapting to do when you learn to play a cupped mic, but hey, nobody said it'd be easy. I'm just glad I learned as a kid, before I got all complicated. :)

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2010-11-10T18:24:37+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11302&p=107708#p107708 <![CDATA[Re: Amp and mic for a newbie harp player?]]>
Cupping a mic and using the rig is a whole nuther thang--but none of it will amount to anything without that good acoustic base.

Just another opinion. . . :shock:

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2010-11-10T06:20:16+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11302&p=107705#p107705 <![CDATA[Re: Amp and mic for a newbie harp player?]]>
gheumann wrote:
...you AND your harp are your instrument. And when you play amplified, You, your harp, your mic and your amp are your instrument.


+2

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2010-10-08T15:33:43+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11302&p=107302#p107302 <![CDATA[Re: Amp and mic for a newbie harp player?]]>

No, you AND your harp are your instrument. And when you play amplified, You, your harp, your mic and your amp are your instrument.


Yup, +1

My rig is a GB-520 into a Boss DD-3, into Fender Champion 600. A lot of guys use delays in their rigs, and after I played through one I could see why, even though I liked the tone I was getting straight into the 600. If your tone needs some good old fat honking SQUONK to nail that classic Chicago sound, try a delay.

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2010-10-07T05:10:26+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11302&p=107279#p107279 <![CDATA[Re: Amp and mic for a newbie harp player?]]>
If you believe that I have some snake oil you might be interested in. Only $19 per ounce, it will cure the common cold, remove warts, stiffen your johnson and turn you into a world class dancer. Honest.

Saying "The mic and amp are just amplification" is just as much B.S. as saying "all tone comes from the amp and mic." NEITHER are true. I'm so tired of people saying the gear doesn't matter. Of COURSE you have to have good tone. If you want to have good amplified tone, there's a boatload more stuff to learn. There's nothing wrong with learning it too. The better you are at playing amplified, the more you will hear the difference between gear.

"YOU are the instrument" ??? No, you AND your harp are your instrument. And when you play amplified, You, your harp, your mic and your amp are your instrument.

Thanks. I feel better now.

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2010-10-05T16:02:24+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11302&p=107260#p107260 <![CDATA[Re: Amp and mic for a newbie harp player?]]> I've played harp for 45 years, being a continual hobbyist (jamming or gigging every week with the same bunch for years), and I've never been super-techy. I've always relied on basic advice from other harpers, plus my own experience, and generally use a 520DX through either a Epi 5-watt Valve Special or my Peavey Classic 30, downtubed. These are plenty adequate for the tone I seek, but your information is valuable in the event I decide to make any changes.

My favorite amp of all time to blow through is an old Ampeg Reverb Rocket single 12, through the Accordian jack. I passed on one a few years back for $425, since I wasn't gigging and was short of bucks. Brilliant, aren't I...? :lol:

BTW, although I own a Blues Blaster mic , I've preferred the feel,heft, and tone of the 520 for my grip and embrochure. I have no negative reaction to the weight of the Shure during long gigs, and prefer it over the light feel of the both the shell and cable of the Blues Blaster. I've even added a little weight to the rig by putting an XLR connector below the shell.

At some point I will try one of your custom mics.

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2010-10-05T05:11:25+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11302&p=107254#p107254 <![CDATA[Re: Amp and mic for a newbie harp player?]]> All About Harmonica Microphones and Then Some...

There's a lot of info there that I think you'll find useful - about mics AND amps.

Cheers

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2010-10-04T13:21:49+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11302&p=107240#p107240 <![CDATA[Re: Amp and mic for a newbie harp player?]]>
However, I wouldn't diminish the need to find an amp/mic rig that suits even a beginner. Anybody who's ever tried to plug a bullet into a SS Squier 15-watt amp knows what I mean. Some amps are un-useable with many mics.

I feel fortunate that when I started playin' alotta harp back in the late 60's acoustic country blues was more common that it is today. We were just coming outa the folk scene and acoustic guitars and acoustic style harp were the norm.

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2010-10-04T11:30:20+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11302&p=107237#p107237 <![CDATA[Re: Amp and mic for a newbie harp player?]]> until i encountered both the internet and also some compassionate but stern teachers i made very little real progress harp-wise. once a certain point is reached in the woodshed, the only way i know to really make progress is by getting out with other musicians live and learning how a harp fits in with live music. even then a p.a. mic is a good way to go since more cupping and hand effect technique is available. i went through a period where i wouldn't play without my own rig, and i actually suffered for it at jams. often the house band would have a harp guy and i would lug my gear out only to be told i had to use what was there already.
but more importantly in my case, i began discovering that guys like sbwII and junior wells and others, usually played through the p.a. i am half of an acoustic duo these days and many of our outings are total acoustic. i can't stress how much this format has challenged me to learn the nuance of playing harp. this experience has improved my chops with amp and mic and full band tremendously.

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2010-10-01T13:16:19+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11302&p=107193#p107193 <![CDATA[Re: Amp and mic for a newbie harp player?]]>

until i left mics and amps alone and got halfway sorted out on acoustic tone, it didn't matter what i was playing through, i was not happy until i found my "inner tone".


This is the best advice you've received so far!

Until you learn to pull a note down into your soul, you are going to sound like feces no matter what rig you're using.

YOU are the instrument!

The mic and amp are just amplification.

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