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Big Road Blues Discussion Forums 2010-02-06T18:35:28+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/feed.php?f=13&t=10734 2010-02-06T18:35:28+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10734&p=102130#p102130 <![CDATA[Re: mystery mic]]> Statistics: Posted by NEONMOONY — Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:35 pm


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2010-02-06T17:50:43+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10734&p=102127#p102127 <![CDATA[Re: mystery mic]]>
NEONMOONY wrote:
Yeah, I was speaking of the controlled magnetic elements. I thought I had posted that too but I must have goofed up because I don't see the follow up post. My bad. ( unless of course Rusty or Ric deleted and were chuckling in the background).

Wasn't me!

I don't mess with anything except the occasional spam post that slips through.

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2010-02-06T16:44:00+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10734&p=102121#p102121 <![CDATA[Re: mystery mic]]>
Bournio wrote:
Ohhh. I see. That makes sense.

NEONMOONY, it's not only the cost, but also the market. I doubt there are as many people after using a vintage style mic for harmonica as there are engineers who LOVE the sound of a Neumann U47 or at least it's more modern equivalent, which costs over a thousand pounds each.

Gear is still a good buy today compared to the relative costs back in the 60's and 70's. I haven't checked the prices for "custom" harps with vintage elements lately (we have sources on this forum), but I'm guessin' you can still get one built for $250-$500 (U.S.); that ain't bad for a good tool that'll get used. And a good low to mid output harp amp is still dirt cheap... around the same $$$ can find you one of those. Life is good. It's also great that the guys building the mics all love their craft; we're lucky in that respect. :)

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2010-02-06T15:33:24+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10734&p=102120#p102120 <![CDATA[Re: mystery mic]]>
NEONMOONY, it's not only the cost, but also the market. I doubt there are as many people after using a vintage style mic for harmonica as there are engineers who LOVE the sound of a Neumann U47 or at least it's more modern equivalent, which costs over a thousand pounds each.

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2010-02-06T13:58:46+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10734&p=102117#p102117 <![CDATA[Re: mystery mic]]> Statistics: Posted by NEONMOONY — Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:58 pm


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2010-02-06T13:56:10+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10734&p=102116#p102116 <![CDATA[Re: mystery mic]]> Statistics: Posted by NEONMOONY — Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:56 pm


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2010-02-06T06:26:35+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10734&p=102111#p102111 <![CDATA[Re: mystery mic]]>
Shure isn't making mics with old style elements because:

1) they cost too much to make
2) The market is TINY compared to the markets they serve
3) the factories, tooling and labor used to make those elements are probably long since "re-purposed."

For a long while (late 40's through the 80's or so) the basic CM mic cartridge was continuously improved and cost-reduced for its purpose, which was VOICE COMMUNICATIONS, not harmonica. Those improvements actually made them less and less desirable as harp mics. But that development in turn led to the modern dynamic element in the 520DX. It wasn't until later that the voice market for mics like that got pushed aside by lightweight plantronics style headsets, and ultimately the only markets LEFT were the vintage HAM radio guys and us. Today Shure markets the 520DX as a harp mic, but that it most definitely not its heritage.

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2010-02-05T19:25:45+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10734&p=102092#p102092 <![CDATA[Re: mystery mic]]>
NEONMOONY wrote:
There ain't no new technology or Shure would have it.


I wonder why shure isn't making mics for harp with the old style elements, since they are in such demand on ebay and such.


I don't know which piece of old style elements you mean?
Ribbon microphone?
Or valve microphones? Or something altogether different...

I blew an G harmonica through a ribbon mic(not cupping it), into an Allen and Heath desk. Got to go back into the studio and add some valve compression to smooth it out a bit more, but that sounded lovely!

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2010-02-05T17:49:21+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10734&p=102087#p102087 <![CDATA[Re: mystery mic]]>
spanoghe wrote:
No sweat, Jeff - thanks for the reply! I've been playng for 50 years and I totally agree with you that the important thing is what you do, not what gear you use. But these babies were really something else! They looked pro-built, too. I guess they could have been by one of those custom builders in the USA. Best, Spanoghe
Maybe the guy who had it knew what he had and didn't want you to ask him to screw the lid off so you could observe what gives him his "edge". There's a coupla harp builders on this site; maybe one of those guys could explain the "directional" capability of that thing. It sounds like what we'd describe as "super hot" around here. I've been playin' for about 45 years and I've gotten a little jaded about mics, due greatly to the fact that I've played alot through SM58s eq'd for vocals when I get up with bands and I still get alotta compliments on my tone; it's not that I'm any great harper either... it's just that around here in Southern Minnesota there aren't many harpers and they haven't heard many veteran players. Otherwise I use either a stock green bullet, or an old fat SM57. I rarely use my blues blaster.. I just don't like the cheap feel of it.

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2010-02-05T17:37:42+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10734&p=102086#p102086 <![CDATA[Re: mystery mic]]>

There ain't no new technology or Shure would have it.


I wonder why shure isn't making mics for harp with the old style elements, since they are in such demand on ebay and such.

Statistics: Posted by NEONMOONY — Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:37 pm


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