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Big Road Blues Discussion Forums 2005-08-15T03:43:46+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/feed.php?f=12&t=1116 2005-08-15T03:43:46+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1116&p=12023#p12023 <![CDATA[RE: Slow blues]]> >>I don't know what artists you are listening to to find the
>>groove but both Elmore and Mac's original versions had a
>>strong groove IMO.
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>I'm listening to the originals, I'm just finding it
>difficult to sit exactly in the pocket.
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>Maybe playing the originals to the rest of the band will
>make it easier. :) The guitarists have the rock habit of
>leaning ahead of the beat. I'll have to train them out of
>that.

The real original versions are played BEHIND the beat, NOT ahead of it, and you gotta play bigger, but FEWER notes to get the job done and rock bands wind up actually playing much slower to try to get that feel. Black music is off the 2 and the 4 and behind the beat with a greater use of space and to play black music right, you absolutely CAN NOT AFFORD TO BE PUSHING THE GROOVE or you'll never be able to be in the pocket with the groove of ANY black music, be it blues, jazz, reggae, soul, hiphop, etc.

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2005-08-15T01:08:10+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1116&p=12022#p12022 <![CDATA[RE: Slow blues]]> >make it easier. :) The guitarists have the rock habit of
>leaning ahead of the beat. I'll have to train them out of
>that.

You got that right, brother. Just behind the beat makes a blues song. Good luck with the rock crossover blues guys.

http://www.DocWilliamson.com

"I chose to sing the blues." Ray Charles

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2005-08-14T22:16:35+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1116&p=12021#p12021 <![CDATA[RE: Slow blues]]> >groove but both Elmore and Mac's original versions had a
>strong groove IMO.

I'm listening to the originals, I'm just finding it difficult to sit exactly in the pocket.

Maybe playing the originals to the rest of the band will make it easier. :) The guitarists have the rock habit of leaning ahead of the beat. I'll have to train them out of that.

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2005-08-14T15:07:37+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1116&p=12020#p12020 <![CDATA[RE: Slow blues]]>
I don't know what artists you are listening to to find the groove but both Elmore and Mac's original versions had a strong groove IMO.

http://www.DocWilliamson.com

"I chose to sing the blues." Ray Charles

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2005-08-14T12:11:06+00:00 http://www.bigroadblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1116&p=12019#p12019 <![CDATA[Slow blues]]> The Sky is Crying and Black Magic Woman but I'm not happy with the bass lines I'm creating. Walking lines are too strident for the slow groove, arpeggios feel useless and soul lines feel to mod for the music. What kind of bass line should I play over this kind of music and, more importantly, where to the accents belong?

I'm sitting here listening to the songs now my I still can't work out "the groove". Any tips?

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