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Big Road Blues Discussion Forums 2005-05-04T21:29:47+00:00 2005-05-04T21:29:47+00:00 <![CDATA[RE: New Yammy weighted action board]]>
I've always preferred my P200 to any later ones.
The P250 was the best in comparison - but I didn't like what they did to the piano sound.

I find a good test for an e.piano is the very high and very low notes. Then play some stuff in the middle.

I find a lot of the keyboards are very "honky" in the middle and very(cow)bell like in the bass notes !
Many keyboards wimp out on the high notes (volume-wise) and/or have way too much reverb. For higher octave fast triplets during a boogie - many keyboards just wimp out or are swamped in reverb.
I used to have a Technics P30 keyboard - that really wimped out on the high notes !

My P200 avoids all that the best. I really want a more transportable keyboard though - on-board speakers not entirely crucial. The P120 and 80's are just no where near as good.

I await a keyboard at least as good as mine - but hope for even better than mine - only then will I part with money.

Can you not get a P120 shell with P200 sounds on it ? Custom order ?

I just tried out some keyboards again at the weekend - oohhh - what a terrible event that was. The one shop in my home town that can have a fair selection of e.pianos was cringeworthy !
The old guy that pounced on me to see what the hell I was doing, to dare enter his store, was a nightmare ! I told him I'd like to find out about the Yamaha keyboards he had. I explained that I had the P200 and was out to find an upgrade replacement - if I could find one as good as or better. He took me to a P60 (I think it was ?)
I asked - could I not try out that P120 over there ! He said to hang on a minute - he wanted to show me this one !!! We eventually got over to the P120 !

I nearly had to push him out of the way to stop him playing it, so I could try it out !
I asked him if I could get it plugged through a keyboard amp to see what it sounded like through that - as I expected the sound through the small internal speakers would be different than how it would be playing it (plugged in) for gigs. He moaned and argued with me for 5 minutes that I didn't need to test that out. I should have left there and then - but I didn't want to put the old guy down.

Sheeeeeeezzzzeee !!!!!!!!!!!!

Same thing the last time I went to that shop, years ago - I just stay away from that shop usually ! I just thought I'd see if it had changed for the better !

Statistics: Posted by snakehips — Wed May 04, 2005 9:29 pm

2005-05-04T15:25:36+00:00 <![CDATA[RE: New Yammy weighted action board]]>
The Roland RD-170 has a softer action and brighter pianos. Very good B3s and stretch tuning which is a great feature I wish Yamaha had. It keeps all the notes in tune from the lowest to the highest note. It works for solo playing but will not work well in a band situation. I hope this is helpful to you.

Statistics: Posted by doc williamson — Wed May 04, 2005 3:25 pm

2005-04-15T20:53:59+00:00 <![CDATA[RE: New Yammy weighted action board]]> Statistics: Posted by jeffl — Fri Apr 15, 2005 8:53 pm

2005-04-15T20:35:20+00:00 <![CDATA[RE: New Yammy weighted action board]]>
My trusted 88's is a huge and heavy Yamaha P200 stage piano
I got it around about 1999. It is a fantastic e.piano
The Hammond sound is rubbish though.

It has twin 30watt stereo amps and speakers - so is handy at monitoring myself at quieter type gigs. Unfortunately, the amps+speakers don't half increase the weight of the whole thing.

I have been looking for a decent replacemnt since then. I have still not found a replacemnt as good or better, that is in the more compact form (without speakers - or at least tiny ones).
Non of the Rolands and Yamahas I have tried have as good a piano sound. I didn't even like the successors to the P200 - is that the P250 ?)

The lowest and highest notes, for me, is where most e. pianos let themselves down. Often, e.pianos sound very middly/honky in the middle and bass regions. My P200 beats them all at this.

Anyone know of any brand new good ones come out ?

I would love to have one permanently at home (eg. my current P200) and use a good more compact 88 for gigging.
After a gig, all the gear gets shoved in my spare room in a pile (Iplay guitars too, plus PA equipment etc etc)

It can be weeks before I get round to getting the piano out of its huge case and set it up, to be ready to play it at whenever the mood takes me - as a result, I tend to get very rusty between gigs and just do not play ofen enough. I need a keyboard for home and one for in its case, for gigging with !

Any suggestions on brand new models ??

Statistics: Posted by snakehips — Fri Apr 15, 2005 8:35 pm

2005-04-05T18:26:03+00:00 <![CDATA[RE: New Yammy weighted action board]]> >the looks of the old Hammond I bought. Looks in the picture
>like an H-182 "Italian Provincial" in walnut, with a fair
>bit of playing wear. Reckon I'll find out Saturday.
>"A cheerful heart is good medicine."
I had a "police" escort anytime I went out to shop seriously for a console digital for my house; my wife's great eye wound up costin' her about 5 grand, in a grand sort of way, so it worked out. I didn't mind spending the money at the time, and I've been very thankful for it during the last 7-8 years.

Statistics: Posted by jeffl — Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:26 pm

2005-04-05T17:10:18+00:00 <![CDATA[RE: New Yammy weighted action board]]>
"A cheerful heart is good medicine."

Statistics: Posted by ricochet — Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:10 pm

2005-04-05T12:27:02+00:00 <![CDATA[RE: New Yammy weighted action board]]>

Statistics: Posted by doc williamson — Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:27 pm

2005-04-05T11:01:38+00:00 <![CDATA[RE: New Yammy weighted action board]]> Statistics: Posted by jeffl — Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:01 am

2005-04-05T00:22:58+00:00 <![CDATA[RE: New Yammy weighted action board]]> >worse values than other boards in the past, cuz I wuz too
>picky about the piano samples. Having said that, portability
>is one of the trade-offs I might be willing to sacrifice
>quality of sound for.

That IS the trade off.

>Unless my wife's new business starts
>makin' money quicker though, I will be living with my
>current rigs for a while. I'm even waitin' to buy a Holmes
>Commander harp pre-amp, cuz I'm feelin' so broke (I got two
>sons in college). Pity me, Doc. Send me one of your old
>boards, freight COD-- C'mon,C'mon.

Bubba, I am here to help you. The only keyboard I have now is the P-120 and it gives me everything I need. I do have a vintage 1970 or so Hohner Melodica I will give you. You might want to get a new mouth piece though. OR, since money is a little tight for you (it is with me too but I don't have two sons in college, I have a dog instead). My feeling is you can always get more money but you can't always find the same stuff you love for sale. I will send you $100 for your old Wurly for packing and shipping. Bubba, just take it to a "We Pack and Ship" place. I'll send you $100 now by PayPal or if you like a check. I am one of the few relics that feels confident enough to get it up and running again. I'll send you more money after I see it and if I feel I can do something with it. Does it have the black plastic top or is it the older model with the metal top?

Statistics: Posted by doc williamson — Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:22 am

2005-04-04T23:49:04+00:00 <![CDATA[RE: New Yammy weighted action board]]> Statistics: Posted by jeffl — Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:49 pm